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There are not a whole lotta college programs running a 3-4. And those that do don't have many NFL ready OLB prospects. Didn't see one at Wisconsin this year. Matthews played Leo or Elephant in a 4-3 though he sometimes he did use a 2 point stance.Originally posted by SMBASS View Post@TomSilverstein
Almost all of the players Greene was given over his 5 years were college DEs. He spent most of his time teaching them to be OLBs.
Imagine if we actually drafted outside linebackers to play outside linebacker.
I suspect this was "steps down" because of the timing, but he would not have been Top 3 likely to go in my list.
Should I ever had compiled such a list.Last edited by pbmax; 01-17-2014, 02:23 PM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Says it was for personal reasons and to be with his family more.
Given the hours assistant coaches put in, and probably all the flak and projects he had to deal with, he might have gotten fed up. Or maybe his family has a health or personal issue, or maybe he just misses them. Who knows.
I thought he'd done pretty well with the players he had to work with, so I'm kinda bummed about it. It presents an opportunity for them to get a new voice in there and hopefully help develop those young guys.
Either that, or M3 will have Edgar Bennett coach them.
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actually, there are quite a few. for whatever reason nfl teams thing college DE's are a better prospect then college 3-4OLB's who have excelled at that position in collegeOriginally posted by pbmax View PostThere are not a whole lotta college programs running a 3-4. And those that do don't have many ready OLB prospects. Didn't see one at Wisconsin this year. Matthews played Leo or Elephant in a 4-3 though he sometimes he did use a 2 point stance.
I suspect this was "steps down" because of the timing, but he would not have been Top 3 likely to go in my list.
Should I ever had compiled such a list.
one that come to mind is clint sintim in 2009. he was great playing OLB in college in virginia's 3-4. we passed on him, and for some reason the giants (a 4-3 team) took him and tried to turn him into a 4-3 OLB.
he had a slow start followed by some injuries and he's retired now. but it is proff that there are skilled 3-4 OLB's already in college
i think it shows just how much nfl teams don't care about the system the player played in college. in their opinions players can adapt, even though recent history has showed us that players are incapable of adapting
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I guess in my oversimplified way of looking at it PB an outside linebacker is an outside linebacker whether you run a 3-4 or a 4-3. You still have to know how to cover, tackle, shed blockers and rush the passer via blitz. Why not take an OL with some size and speed and try to teach him some of the finer points of rushing the passer when needed instead of taking a DL and trying to teach him everything else on top of playing in space which he's never done at all or done very little of.Originally posted by pbmax View PostThere are not a whole lotta college programs running a 3-4. And those that do don't have many ready OLB prospects. Didn't see one at Wisconsin this year. Matthews played Leo or Elephant in a 4-3 though he sometimes he did use a 2 point stance.
I suspect this was "steps down" because of the timing, but he would not have been Top 3 likely to go in my list.
Should I ever had compiled such a list.
Sounds like Greene decided to step down to spend more time with his kids and family.
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From a strictly skills standpoint, you may be right. But from a matchup point of view, the OLB is usually dealing with a Tackle in a 3-4. Sam linebacker in a 4-3 is dealing with a TE and occasionally a Tackle. The one skill that probably does not crossover is emphasis on pass rush.Originally posted by SMBASS View PostI guess in my oversimplified way of looking at it PB an outside linebacker is an outside linebacker whether you run a 3-4 or a 4-3. You still have to know how to cover, tackle, shed blockers and rush the passer via blitz. Why not take an OL with some size and speed and try to teach him some of the finer points of rushing the passer when needed instead of taking a DL and trying to teach him everything else on top of playing in space which he's never done at all or done very little of.
Sounds like Greene decided to step down to spend more time with his kids and family.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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