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  • #16
    Originally posted by run pMc View Post
    +1

    I don't think we've got a full idea of Perry yet, because of the injuries. I do worry about him being "injury-prone". Neal too, although I think he was too bulked up on the DL and that was stressing his body. If he drops some weight he might get a little faster/quicker. Both of them alternately flashed and struggled. Most of Perry's sacks resulted in fumbles.
    I don't think of either as especially proficient dropping into coverage, so I could them being used more on early downs or rushing. Also think they should flipflop Clay to LOLB and put the winner of the Perry/Neal camp battle to the ROLB. Perry did better there and I agree that Clay might have more success against RT's -- although I think some teams will just double/chip him with the RB or TE.

    "APRH", with another year the OLB group could be decent. Depends on whether they can get some developmental leap from one or two of: Palmer, Mulumba, Perry, and (if resigned) Neal.

    Some of the writers really love Neal and think a team will give him Walden money. I'm not quite seeing that, but I suppose it only takes one team. If that happens, I'd let him walk, draft a replacement, and enjoy the comp pick in 2015. (It's better than making Worthy an OLB)
    +2

    I'd like the Packers to keep him around, but might as well let him test the market first. Unless they can get him on the cheap.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
      Kampman was already starting to suck before he became an OLB.
      people insist he was better than Jared Allen
      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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      • #18
        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
        people insist he was better than Jared Allen
        For a couple years, I think he was. His short career and JA's much longer one should not obscure just how good Kampman was for a few years. He was very good as a pass rusher, and was even better against the run. At that time JA was as good rushing, but mediocre against the run. Throw in AK's first rate character against JA's more questionable one at the time, and I was more than pleased to have AK. Unfortunately, he flamed out relatively quickly, and JA got even better while maturing as an individual.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Perry looks stiff compared to Neal. I saw Kampman more like Perry, too.

          The injury issue with Neal is also complicated. Maybe the significant weight-loss (and he said he intends to lose a little bit more this off-season) and his change in training habits last year will improve the injury issue. Again, maybe his body really couldn't handle the weight he carried on his body and the weights he lifted in workouts. If he trains to be a linebacker, maybe his injuries will decrease.
          Ya, and maybe Kate Moss will call one of us to go out for drinks. This is the Packers we're talking about, injuries are a given, severity is the only question.
          --
          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Guiness View Post
            Ya, and maybe Kate Moss will call one of us to go out for drinks. This is the Packers we're talking about, injuries are a given, severity is the only question.
            Will reply later. Have to go answer my phone..........

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Guiness View Post
              Ya, and maybe Kate Moss will call one of us to go out for drinks. This is the Packers we're talking about, injuries are a given, severity is the only question.
              i hit that shit last weekend

              it was alright

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              • #22
                Kate Moss is a mediocre supermodel!
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post

                  Is he worth keeping?
                  gotta keep him in my view. we'll be a weaker team without him. there are many on this board that get mad and say get rid of this guy or that guy. it ends being a list of consisting of half the team. gotta replace them with someone and that only leaves cheap fa's and draft picks to chose from. marginal players that their teams didn't want to keep and crap-shoot middle to low round rookies. it's not practical to turn over half the roster. we'll continue being the youngest (least experienced) team in the league if this continues. we've got to keep some of these guys that played solid and let them grow into the position and get the experience they need. we're not that far away.

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                  • #24
                    I like Neal as a OLB better than Perry..who I too think is stiff as a LB

                    Perry was the wrong pick by TT
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #25
                      i guess i would be ok if they did a brad jones type of deal now that i've thought about it and looked over jones numbers again

                      first year is 2.5 millionish, thats fine.

                      the next year it goes of to the 4 million range. if he continues to improve as an OLB next season, then he gets to make his 4 million in 2015. if he dosen't continue to improve, you have the option of cutting him if you need the cap space.

                      the key is the signing bonus. if they make it small enough, and use other things like roster bonuses, then they can cut him after a year if they have to without taking a big cap hit. just like i would suspect if they need the cap room this year, jones could be cut, if they can fine someone better of course

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post

                        Perry was the wrong pick by TT
                        then i think they need to trade him ASAP, and try and get some value out of him while they can.

                        the browns were able to trade a first round draft bust to the colts for a first round pick this year

                        we need to start finding suckers like other teams find
                        Last edited by red; 01-24-2014, 10:00 PM.

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                        • #27
                          that's an interesting thought.....but what would you get for Nick Perry.......a low 3rd tops ? He has not shown much but a guy with one pass rushing move who can stuff the run at times when he's healthy...which is not a lot
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            that's an interesting thought.....but what would you get for Nick Perry.......a low 3rd tops ? He has not shown much but a guy with one pass rushing move who can stuff the run at times when he's healthy...which is not a lot
                            to a 4-3 team he might look pretty good

                            i would start out asking for a second, if someone offered a 3rd, i'd maybe take it

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              That's were I am at.
                              Then I hope they get a guy in the draft who changes their decision to one of deciding which of Neal and Perry is the better back-up.
                              Yes.
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                              • #30
                                Or.... we could switch to a 4-3

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