Favre a GRAMPS!

[Patler]

Favre retired, unretired. Big fucking deal. Folks change their minds all the time.

Favre asked politely for his release. Thompson arrogantly refused. Favre had fly into GB during the lame Family Night scrimmage just to force Thompson's hand. After all Favre did for the Packers, and the fact that the toot-toot train had left the station, the right/just/moral/ethical move would be to just release Favre outright.

The Colts did that with Manning.

The Manning and Favre situations aren't similar from a contract perspective. The Colts owed Manning a $28 million option bonus that spring. They had no choice but to release him, especially since no one even knew if he could throw for sure.

Interesting how much more professionally Manning handled his departure, even though some reports are that he was royally ticked off about it. Favre was much less graceful, and seemed to hold a grudge for a long time.

[Rutnstrut]

I think Thompson feared playing against Favre.

I mean, the Packers had already moved on with Aaron Rodgers; the train had left the station. There was no need for a circus.

I think you are 100% correct here, imo TT had an agenda and HAD to not only get rid of Favre, but start Rodgers and who HAD to be decent. Because if Rodgers sucked, no one buys into the whole TT draft and develop concept. Which is failing and is another story.

[Rutnstrut]

The Manning and Favre situations aren't similar from a contract perspective. The Colts owed Manning a $28 million option bonus that spring. They had no choice but to release him, especially since no one even knew if he could throw for sure.

Interesting how much more professionally Manning handled his departure, even though some reports are that he was royally ticked off about it. Favre was much less graceful, and seemed to hold a grudge for a long time.

Of course Manning had Favre to pave the way and show things not to do.

[mraynrand]

Because if Rodgers sucked, no one buys into the whole TT draft and develop concept. Which is failing and is another story.

Except that Rodgers is one of the best QBs in the NFL, the Packers have been in the playoff 6/9 TT years with a Superbowl win. If that's failing in the NFL, give me more failure.

[Rodgers12]

Thompson wasn't being arrogant. He was just afraid of Favre playing for a rival - as you stated above.

Think Irsay wasn't afraid of Manning? Thompson wasn't just arrogant, he was a coward.

[Patler]

Of course Manning had Favre to pave the way and show things not to do.

I can't buy that excuse for Favre. He knew how bad it had been in Philly with Reggie White, and for years said he would never do that. If the Packers didn't want him, he would retire. I'm not saying he had to retire, but once it became clear he wasn't wanted back, leaving more gracefully would have been nice. I can even excuse some of the off season crap as in the heat of the moment. But, it continued for months.

[Guiness]

Tit for Tat.

No it isn't. Just keep it in the Favre thread.

This board went through enough tough times and I, for one, don't wish to see that again. For one, Rastak occasionally comes around and I'd prefer that continue.

/discussion

[Bossman641]

Rehashing favre again...must be the offseason

[woodbuck27]

The Manning and Favre situations aren't similar from a contract perspective. The Colts owed Manning a $28 million option bonus that spring. They had no choice but to release him, especially since no one even knew if he could throw for sure.

Interesting how much more professionally Manning handled his departure, even though some reports are that he was royally ticked off about it. Favre was much less graceful, and seemed to hold a grudge for a long time.

The so called Favre grudge was over by the end of his season in New York as a Jet.

After that to defeat a team that somehow cast you away is absolutely normal in Pro Sports. The "only' grudge I see is that on some Packer fans that havn't as yet got their collective nose back from being bent out of shape. Certainly TT and MM havn't got over the embarrassment of favre handing the Packers their asses on his return to the NFC and Vikings.What didn't they expect?

They certainly knew he had it. Sending him to Siberiaa New York Jets wasn't necessarily going to hold that man down. [B]This is after all...... Brett Favre.

After tossing seven (7) TD's Vs the Packers and leading his new team, the Minnesota Vikings to two wins over his former team the Green bay Packers by a combined score of 68-49. Favre was still holding a grudge? That makes no sense.

That Brett Favre was "holding a grudge" is highly unlikely.

Why would he hold a grudge? Why would that be necessary having handed the Green Bay Packers two solid defeats in the 2009 season?

Favre clearly said he wasn't aware of any grudge between himself and Ted Thomson/mike McCarthy in a press conference following the Final NY Jets game. A loss to the Miami Dolphins at the end of the 2008 season. That loss eliminating the NY Jets from the AFC Playoffs that season.

Brett Favre clearly only desired his freedom to play the game he loved when it was clear that his "only 'option as a Green Bay Packer was to hold a clip board as Aaron Rodgers backup. Favre wasn't going to be allowed to compete for the starting QB position as he would most likely have won that. it was time to change the guard at the QB position. TT and MM prudently had to start Aaron Rodgers or risk losing him as a Free Agent. it was definitely right for AR to get his start.

On the flip side:

Brett Favre was outstanding in 2007. I believe he was the outstanding offensive player in the NFC in 2007. He led the Green Bay Packers to a 13-3 record. Almost led the Packers to a Super Bowl berth as the team (was runner-up in the NFC and losing to the NY GIANTS in O.T.

The Giants went on to defeat the NE Patriots and win the Lombardi Trophy by a score of 17-14 in what is considered one of the greatest upsets in Super Bowl history. The Pats were 12 Point favourites.

Favre had T-Personal Best ...13 wins. Favre had a Personal Best 66.5% completion rate. He nearly won his 4th MVP award in the NFL that season. Except for the NE Patriots and Tom Brady with the assistance of a having WR Randy Moss and his ** "monster Season" ... 98 catch's for 1493 yards and 23 TD's that went a long ways to that end.

Tom Brady:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00.htm

Randy Moss:

** http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/MossRa00.htm

Brett Favre:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FavrBr00.htm

[Bossman641]

The so called Favre grudge was over by the end of his season in New York as a Jet.

Yes sure after tossing what seven (7) TD"s Vs the Packers and leading the Vikings to two wins by a combined score of 68-49,Favre was still holding a grudge.

I post here that that's highly unlikely that Brett Favre waa still holding a grudge...as why would he hold a grudge having handed the Green Bay Packers two solid defeats in the 2009 season.

I don't even know why I bother cause your mind was made up on this long ago....

But why the fuck did Favre tell Julius Peppers to beat the Packers during the 2010 season? To recap, Favre got concussed and knocked out of the game in week 15 vs the Bears. After the game, he told Peppers to beat the Packers 2 weeks later in week 17. Knocked out of game, walking off the field for the last time, and his mind is on seeing the Packers struggle.

No grudge there right? Just like when he called Matt Millen out of the blue during the 2008 season and helped the Lions game plan against the Packers.

[woodbuck27]

No it isn't. Just keep it in the Favre thread.

This board went through enough tough times and I, for one, don't wish to see that again. For one, Rastak occasionally comes around and I'd prefer that continue.

/discussion

I didn't post the thread.

The Tit for tat comment...has nothing to do with Favre and the Favre thread.

Let's be perfectly clear on that. Please read this thread carefully.

I ask that you be fair in this matter Guiness. I have ZERO issue with this thread being shifted wherever.

It doesn't change the water on the beans and mraynrand (Cleft Crusty) The person who posts under those handles. I want banned !

I want mraynrand (and Cleft Crusty) banned from Packerrats.

It's right there.

Don't sell me out Guiness.

How much clearer do I have to be in articulating that?

[woodbuck27]

I don't even know why I bother cause your mind was made up on this long ago....

But why the fuck did Favre tell Julius Peppers to beat the Packers during the 2010 season? To recap, Favre got concussed and knocked out of the game in week 15 vs the Bears. After the game, he told Peppers to beat the Packers 2 weeks later in week 17. Knocked out of game, walking off the field for the last time, and his mind is on seeing the Packers struggle.

No grudge there right? Just like when he called Matt Millen out of the blue during the 2008 season and helped the Lions game plan against the Packers.

Your post is angry.

Please calm down.

The 'only silly grudge' associate with Brett Favre comes in the form of the likes of you Bossman641 ( I get you mixed up like Joemailman your so much alike) That is so so TRUE.

Bossman641 and Joemailman and holding a grudge VS Brett Favre are like clones. Many more in here at Packerats are also in your Brett Favre dislike to hate . . . grudge club.

Isn't that the TRUTH boys?

Is that clear !?

It's Packer fans like you that should make some more concerted efforts to get over your pettiness.

Grow up as a sports fan. Your attitude is simply foolish. Laughable.

See .....watch me laugh at you.

See me laughing ?? No you can't ! Imagine me laughing then .

For the sake of all reason grow up Bossman641 (Edit).

[Teamcheez1]

Please keep watching the Superbowl game. The Manning pick 6 should be bringing you fond memories of Favre.

[Bossman641]

Your post is angry.

Please calm down.

The 'only silly grudge' associate with Brett Favre comes in the form of the likes of you Joemailman. That is so so TRUE,

It's Packer fans like you that should make some more concerted efforts to get over your pettiness.

Grow up as a sports fan. Your attitude is simply foolish. Laughable.

See .....watch me laugh at you.

See me laughing ?? No you can't ! Imagine me laughing then Joemailman.

For the sake of all reason grow up Joemailman.

???

My name is not Joemailman. My post was not angry. I am not angry at Favre any more. I certainly was, but I am over it now.

Now please respond to my question, thank you. I am just looking for your take on that situation.

[woodbuck27]

Please keep watching the Superbowl game. The Manning pick 6 should be bringing you fond memories of Favre.

I'll file that under the category...Petty Posts .