Russell Wilson: Overrated?

[mraynrand]

Might be interesting to see Brandon494's views on other aspects of the Packers, in addition to an opponent's QB.

[mraynrand]

What goes unsaid here is in the second half of the season Russell Wilson's OL was terrible.

Giacomini is a stiff. And he gets all sorts of BA penalties. If he plays next year, look for late hits galore!

[Zool]

He didn't miss a year playing minors, that was the plan but he decided to come back to football. Unfortunately for him NC State had already moved on with current Bucs starter Glennon and that's when Russell made the transfer to Wisconsin. He was able to transfer without waiting a year because he had already graduated. Also he just turned 25 two months ago...Rodgers hadn't even had a career start under his belt...he is far from reaching his plateau. Lets not also forget the division they are in and the defenses he has to face twice a year.

I'm not going to compare him to Rodgers because that's not fair. Wilson at 25 has a much better brain for the game than did AR but AR had an arm that made everyone look when he threw the ball. The brain came later. I think Wilson has everything you want in a QB other than that arm that makes people say wow. He's pretty GD good though. I'd take hi over Flacco every single day of the week. He doesn't have the fatal flaw of turnovers at the worst time. That's why I think he's better right now than Flacco is right now.

I just don't think he's going to hit that top 3 passer in the league. We're probably just splitting hairs though.

Can we go back to taking about hating Carroll? I think we can all agree on that one.

[ThunderDan]

Just so we are discussing the SEA offense that actually happened during the year and not what we remember from the last few playoff games.

339 ypg, 17th in the league.
202.2 ypg passing, 26th in the league.
26.1 ppg, tied 8th with GB.

[denverYooper]

Just so we are discussing the SEA offense that actually happened during the year and not what we remember from the last few playoff games.

339 ypg, 17th in the league.
202.2 ypg passing, 26th in the league.
26.1 ppg, tied 8th with GB.

Is that ppg number combined O/D/ST scores or offense only?

[ThunderDan]

Is that ppg number combined O/D/ST scores or offense only?

It includes all points scored by team.

[mraynrand]

Just so we are discussing the SEA offense that actually happened during the year and not what we remember from the last few playoff games.

339 ypg, 17th in the league.
202.2 ypg passing, 26th in the league.
26.1 ppg, tied 8th with GB.

Jim McMahon: Overrated?

[Smeefers]

Game managers DON'T need to win by 35 points. Not when your defense and special teams are scoring points, as the Gulls did in the SB.

Take away Manning, Brady and Rodgers and replace them with game managers and their teams would stink. Take away Wilson and replace him with a game manager and the Gulls would probably still win the SB.

Wilson's playoffs stats weren't great. They were Alex Smithesque, and Alex Smith is a game manager.

Yes, Wilson's scrambling ability and having Lynch behind him is what helps his game. He'll never be a QB who will be able to carry his team on his back like the true elites do.

This is what I don't understand. I haven't heard one person call Wilson Elite. I haven't heard one person say that Wilson could hoist a team on his back and carry them to the super bowl. If you take away the 14 points his D scored, they still dominated the Broncos. What people are doing is calling him good and that is by no means over rating him.

I totally disagree that if you take away Wilson that the Gulls would have won the super bowl. He's a perfect fit for the system that they run there. He makes very very few mistakes and keeps the ball rolling.

I don't understand how this conversation went from "Is RW over rated" to "RW wouldn't have won the super bowl without his monster D." Well no shit sherlock. Congratulations Captain Obvious.

[mraynrand]

Patler: overrated?

[ThunderDan]

Jim McMahon: Overrated?

Probably, I am not saying that Wilson is overrated. I just put up the SEA stats. Is he elite? I don't think so passing for 3,200 yards in a 4,500 yard league. But I put that squarely on the offense Seattle runs. They don't ask for Wilson to throw the ball all over the field.

[pbmax]

Jim McMahon: Overrated?

Had I known then what I know now*, I would have been more mad at the Punky QB for giving Rozelle a figurative middle finger.


* That his successors would eventually be much worse.

[MadtownPacker]

We don't actually disagree. I mainly disagreed with your tone. I don't know how good Russel might become, right now he is damn good, not yet elite.

That's right! Nobody here likes a mouthy kneegrow speaking his mind!

Wilson is a good QB and appears to be a great leader. He can learn to be a better QB with time. Leaders are born.

[mraynrand]

PBmax: Overrated?

[MadtownPacker]

Let's be honest, PB has the stats but really, how many where deep passes? If you look closely you might notice they are just a bunch of twitter handoffs that skilled posters are able to dissect and discuss. Really just a thread manager IMO.

[mraynrand]

Really just a thread manager IMO.

LOL