MM's management style

[pbmax]

But now, if it is to believed that Van Rotten was let go because the Packers wanted to "get bigger," does that mean that MM is going to a more power-blocking scheme?

They already have moved that way, but as 3irty1 points out, the desire to be larger on the O line predates Lacy.

I hope they keep the zone stuff because Starks was flat out taking advantage of Defenses who were not ready for it after a week of prep for Lacy.

To simplify the scheme, I can see them keeping Franklin and Harris, saying goodbye to Starks and running mainly power. But this year it was a wonder to behold.

[Fritz]

They already have moved that way, but as 3irty1 points out, the desire to be larger on the O line predates Lacy.

I hope they keep the zone stuff because Starks was flat out taking advantage of Defenses who were not ready for it after a week of prep for Lacy.

To simplify the scheme, I can see them keeping Franklin and Harris, saying goodbye to Starks and running mainly power. But this year it was a wonder to behold.

Despite Starks's frequent injuries, I would like to see the team bring him back if he's at all affordable. Man, he ran angry, and he seemed to go North-South pretty much right away, and if he was running outside he'd pick his moment and then cut and go.

Every week, MM kept talking about wanting to get Starks more carries. Every week, he'd pound Lacy, even an injured Lacy, into the ground. I'd like to have seen Starks get a few more carries each game. The dude did some damage and was a nice counter to Lacy. After having to tackle Lacy most of the day, it would suck to see Starks coming at you like a train. That's a lot different than seeing Jonathan Franklin, for whom I hold out little hope.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Despite Starks's frequent injuries, I would like to see the team bring him back if he's at all affordable. Man, he ran angry, and he seemed to go North-South pretty much right away, and if he was running outside he'd pick his moment and then cut and go.

Every week, MM kept talking about wanting to get Starks more carries. Every week, he'd pound Lacy, even an injured Lacy, into the ground. I'd like to have seen Starks get a few more carries each game. The dude did some damage and was a nice counter to Lacy. After having to tackle Lacy most of the day, it would suck to see Starks coming at you like a train. That's a lot different than seeing Jonathan Franklin, for whom I hold out little hope.

I'm with you. I'd take Starks over Franklin any day and twice on Sunday. Unfortunately, I don't think the money gods are gonna agree with us.

[Bretsky]

i can't take this fucking place anymore

most you fucking idiots have your heads so far up the teams ass that you can't smell the shit

fuck this place

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DRINK UP

ALRIGHT F'CKER GET YOUR ASS BACK IN HERE; with WIST sporadic and you TRYING TO BAIL I've got little support in here

Who chased this guy out anyways ???

Stop being a P@SS and GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE

[mraynrand]

ALRIGHT F'CKER GET YOUR ASS BACK IN HERE; with WIST sporadic and you TRYING TO BAIL I've got little support in here

Who chased this guy out anyways ???

Stop being a P@SS and GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE

He got tired of all of us kissing Stubby's fat white rear end. We have all bought into the TT propaganda. TT - his method of building a team is the pivotal experiment of the new millennium.

[mraynrand]

I'm with you. I'd take Starks over Franklin any day and twice on Sunday. Unfortunately, I don't think the money gods are gonna agree with us.

Hate to lose the Stark Plug - but all good things come to an end. However, don't ever forget that he is Injury Prone!

[bobblehead]

ALRIGHT F'CKER GET YOUR ASS BACK IN HERE; with WIST sporadic and you TRYING TO BAIL I've got little support in here

Who chased this guy out anyways ???

Stop being a P@SS and GET YOUR ASS BACK HERE

I am sensing a theme here, and its not that anyone is chasing Red out, but rather Red is an intolerant &%)#.

[pbmax]

posted elsewhere on this site: http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...l=1#post775003

Demovsky dances around the idea that Green leaving was possibly a shot across Capers bow.

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/7844/capers-understands-greenes-decision

[3irty1]

Also this:

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/7827/mccarthy-capers-will-fix-defense-together

You read through that and McCarthy is echoing some of what posters have said on this forum over the last two years.

We've got to address the fact that we don’t have control over exactly who’s available each week,” McCarthy said. “So something has to adjust or charge or emphasize. I think it’s a very practical approach, a common-sense approach. The availability of our players, we don't have nine guys on defense that average 1,000 reps a year -- we never have -- so let's quit training our defense that way. That’s really what it comes down to.

And

Rather, he’s shooting for a more-creativity, less-volume approach.

Couldn't have said it better myself! This defense is nothing but volume, when things don't work there is no tried and true play that we've practiced a million times and never make a mistake in, especially with backups. But in the same article we get a quote from Dom:

What we did the first year when we came in, I think it’s just a matter of getting a group and figuring out what they can do the best and adapting what they do to what we do best.

There is at least lip service to doing what good coaches do, aka, fitting the scheme to the personnel but that second part erases it. I'm not going to sensationalize and claim that Capers is an incompetent heroin addict or anything but I'm glad that MM seems to be giving him some direction this offseason. He might be too much of a mad scientist for his own good.

[Smidgeon]

It sounds like this will be the year that GB finally goes to a multiples defense. I could be reading too much into this, but I was under the impression when Capers was brought in that the defense would be 3-4 some snaps, 4-3 other snaps, and a whole lot of unknown for the opposing offenses. Then the 3-4 won the Super Bowl, Raji looked like he was competing for best drafted player in the 2009 draft, Woodson turned his game up a notch, Collins was the second coming, and I forgot about the multiples thing. Let's be honest, the 2010 defense was something incredibly special.

[red]

It sounds like this will be the year that GB finally goes to a multiples defense. I could be reading too much into this, but I was under the impression when Capers was brought in that the defense would be 3-4 some snaps, 4-3 other snaps, and a whole lot of unknown for the opposing offenses. Then the 3-4 won the Super Bowl, Raji looked like he was competing for best drafted player in the 2009 draft, Woodson turned his game up a notch, Collins was the second coming, and I forgot about the multiples thing. Let's be honest, the 2010 defense was something incredibly special.

that was my take too. what M3 is saying we are going to do this year, is the same damn thing we were suppose to be doing this whole time

and M3 saying things are gonna change on D this year is nothing new, i'm pretty sure he's said that every year.

its all just ear candy until we actually see a change on the field. M3 is just telling the fans what they want to hear, with him, thats no guarantee that anything will change

[3irty1]

What Dom said sounds like typical coach-speak to me but McCarthy's sounds like it has substance there. His critique of the defense is too logical to just be camera talk. Perhaps we're going more multiple but it sounds like overall there will be less volume, not more.

[pbmax]

What Dom said sounds like typical coach-speak to me but McCarthy's sounds like it has substance there. His critique of the defense is too logical to just be camera talk. Perhaps we're going more multiple but it sounds like overall there will be less volume, not more.

Great find 3irty1. Did not see that article mentioned by anyone and its the best one on the defense this offseason.

I think McCarthy has hit the nail on the head. But I wonder what Capers thinks they do best as a baseline. Because its been all over the map the last three years. So its hard to parse his sentence and determine whether he has finally figured out that he has to adopt the skills of his new groups to what he does, or he is still trying to fit them into the same spaces.

McCarthy has all but said he wants to dictate to the opposing offense. Its no wonder he interviewed Williams.

[3irty1]

When you look at the breadth of what MM has said regarding the defense this season it sounds like the scheme isn't what will change but rather the roles of the players in it and the training required to get them there. He's talked about moving around Neal, Datone Jones both inside and outside. He's talked about Perry taking snaps on the right side where its more natural for him. Giving Hyde looks at safety and CB. The thinking is consistent with what he's done on the offense. Every WR is taught to lineup anywhere and run the full tree. Every TE gets reps as an H-back. He's infamous for what we called "musical chairs" on the offensive line.

I think that's what we'll see is less volume but more variance by moving and substituting guys. Dedication to this before the season starts should lead to more flexibility when injuries start accumulating because there will be more ways to get your best 11 on the field.

[pbmax]

Okey dokey. We had Demovsky dancing around the issue that Mike was delivering a message to Capers about the D. Here is Wilde with the other side of the coin, the fact that McCarthy knows he only has so much time in a week and he needs to spend what coaching time he has with his QB and his game plan.

So Dom might get a new set of goals or focus points in the offseason, but he is still going to be handling the D from camp on through the season without increased input from McCarthy.

A very good interview with the coach and his approach to choosing his focus.

http://www.espnwisconsin.com/common/page.php?feed=2&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&id=13341&is_corp=1

It’s not a high concern on my list. I’ve done this long enough, I’ve seen it at the highest level now, I’ve been blessed to be around great quarterbacks, I’ve been able to watch relationships, I’ve been able to have more than one relationship. Part of that’s just part of the deal. The longer guys play the more opinionated [they get]. That’s the reality of it. Where I’ve got to be better, too, and I think I have, is not being as critical of him and the expectations because we do put a lot on his plate compared to five years ago, where [it was], ‘I called this, do this.’ Now. we’re calling this and it has four prongs or three prongs.