To get this thread on track I'd like to share my desire for TT to sign free agent Cardinals WR Andre Roberts. I see a lot of Greg Jennings in Roberts's game. He's buttery smooth as a route runner, has excellent hands, very good after the catch (accomplished college punt returner), durable, shows Green Bay character, and while lacking elite speed to be a 9 route nightmare he has good speed (4.40 five years ago) to challenge a defense vertically. He's been rotting away in Arizona which has made him a under the radar free agent but does have some production and highlights from his time with Palmer at QB. In our 2013 preseason game against the Cardinals he beat House deep for a TD in an excellent example of what our offense has been missing. His best route appears to be an out route which he's excellent at setting up for a double move. My final argument TT, since I know you're reading, is that the NFL draft crop is deep at the WR position but is lacking in players with anything but average timed speed that can maximize their opportunities with big plays. Also even Rookie WR who are drafted highly are almost never real difference makers for their first year or two in the league. Perhaps the best value for 2014 is to find an ascending player on their 2nd or 3rd contract like Roberts.
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And it seemed like a condition that existed when he was with the Packers. I'm surprised Cleveland picked up the tab instead of just sending him back to the Packers.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostThe Johnson thing appeared to be mismanaged by the Packers. He was signed off the PS then upon being inspected by the other teams doctors they discovered a problem with his knee and he went straight to IR. Seems like we let one get away.--
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Yup but its one thing in common those receivers that get overpaid have that Jones doesn't...SPEED!!!Originally posted by pbmax View PostWe think no one will pay someone #1 money who isn't a #1 receiver, but it happens every year. Not to every less than top flight WR, but to at least one of them.
Jets and Redskins fans know exactly what this looks like.
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I like Andre Roberts but if we do add another WR I hope its a taller guy, our red zone offense was horrible last season.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostTo get this thread on track I'd like to share my desire for TT to sign free agent Cardinals WR Andre Roberts. I see a lot of Greg Jennings in Roberts's game. He's buttery smooth as a route runner, has excellent hands, very good after the catch (accomplished college punt returner), durable, shows Green Bay character, and while lacking elite speed to be a 9 route nightmare he has good speed (4.40 five years ago) to challenge a defense vertically. He's been rotting away in Arizona which has made him a under the radar free agent but does have some production and highlights from his time with Palmer at QB. In our 2013 preseason game against the Cardinals he beat House deep for a TD in an excellent example of what our offense has been missing. His best route appears to be an out route which he's excellent at setting up for a double move. My final argument TT, since I know you're reading, is that the NFL draft crop is deep at the WR position but is lacking in players with anything but average timed speed that can maximize their opportunities with big plays. Also even Rookie WR who are drafted highly are almost never real difference makers for their first year or two in the league. Perhaps the best value for 2014 is to find an ascending player on their 2nd or 3rd contract like Roberts.
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Jordy was #10 in the NFL receiving yards despite not having his starting QB for half the season and he's only top 15? I think some people here underestimate him.Originally posted by Bretsky View PostGood examples; I'd take all of those over Nelson and maybe a couple more........I think top 15 is fairI can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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So give me your top fifteen with Jordy in the top ten. Jordy, like JJ, benefits from our expolsive offense. Guys like Fitz.....his offense is junk.....V Jackson...he has not QB......I try to take all the scenarios into account fwiwOriginally posted by Joemailman View PostJordy was #10 in the NFL receiving yards despite not having his starting QB for half the season and he's only top 15? I think some people here underestimate him.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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It's hard to rank Jordy for me. He doesn't play up to his size, and may not have the deceptive speed he had in 2011 but he's got no weaknesses either. He's a consummate professional that is somehow a lot better than the sum of his parts. I don't think there are 10 guys I'd rather have at this point but he's also at a pretty crowded tier of WR talent IMO.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Agree. But he is a step below the top flight guys listed above. Magatron, Marshall, Gordon, even Jeffery can win jump balls and get open and create space for themselves. Top 10? - I guess, why not, based on productivity, but still not an individually dominant WR*.Originally posted by smuggler View PostHe has elite body control. Sideline catches...
*like the top guys mentioned"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Jordy still has his top gear but he was never quick in the middle of his routes like Jennings. He runs big and long.
BTW, CBS has cap going to $130 million. Makes it harder on Ted as more teams can spend more dumb money if true.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I wonder though if it increases the chances he would franchise Shields if they can't come to a deal.Originally posted by pbmax View PostJordy still has his top gear but he was never quick in the middle of his routes like Jennings. He runs big and long.
BTW, CBS has cap going to $130 million. Makes it harder on Ted as more teams can spend more dumb money if true.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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