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  • #61
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    Perhaps if the TE position becomes a bigger weapon league-wide, the salaries will increase and so will the tag amount. The player pretty much should accept his designation and tag amount. If he doesn't like it, he can hold out. TEs coming into the league, if they want WR money, should compete with other WRs.
    Its actually a wee bit more complicated than a simple designation from the GameDay Program. The Management Council needs to count the number of snaps to determine the position at which the player played the plurality of his snaps.

    If he was a D line player, it could be very up in the air whether it was they were a DE or DT. And it wouldn't matter about competing with one position group or another. They have had to make that call before.

    Graham is no in line blocker. Its a fair claim that will be hard to judge. Just as that DE who lines up as a DT in nickel could be called a DE out of his typical position, Graham could be called a TE no matter he lines up on the field. But that's not exactly what the CBA says on the matter:

    the position . . . at which the Franchise Player participated in the most plays during the prior League Year.
    Going to be an interesting hearing.

    Now that the Saints have applied the franchise tag to tight end Jimmy Graham, plenty of things can happen over the next four months or so.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      I think they are just up against the cap.
      I read they may not be able to afford the WR Franchise Tag if that is what comes down.
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      • #63
        The actual language of the NFL franchise tag says he is a wide receiver.

        Article 10, Section 2(a)(i):

        It deems that the franchise player be tendered at the position “at which [he] participated in the most plays during the prior League Year.”

        Again, the Saints do not actually have salary cap space to tag a wide receiver. The obvious answer for the Saints is to negotiate with Graham while he's stuck in free agents' limbo.

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        • #64
          I know Red Bryant is a Seattle cap casualty as of a few days ago, so he's not likely going to accept a lot less money than what he was hoping to make, because some other team will probably see him as an upgrade at DE. He's 6'4 and weighs 323 and is known to be an excellent run stopper. But, he'll be 30 years old on April 18th. I know there are those who will argue that you wouldn't pay a big contract to a guy like this, given age and likely salary demands, but man would he look good in a Packer uniform. Holding the point of attack, keeping the linebackers clean to do what they are supposed to do.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
            Hes worth the money and they lined him up at WR more then TE. The guy has been putting up monster numbers for them and wasn't even healthy last season, I don't know why NO is being cheap but it might back fire when he decided to leave. Someone is going to pay him big money.
            Since he can't block and the saints go out of the way to run away from his side, I have to say he is a WR. I would debate if he deserves top 5 money though.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
              Since he can't block and the saints go out of the way to run away from his side, I have to say he is a WR. I would debate if he deserves top 5 money though.
              he does play like a WR.
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              • #67
                Ware and CM III...that could be fun.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                  Ware and CM III...that could be fun.

                  http://lombardiave.com/2014/02/28/de...s-free-agency/
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                  Screw the "all dressed" dog.
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                  • #69
                    Woodson was plain as can be...
                    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                      Ware and CM III...that could be fun.

                      http://lombardiave.com/2014/02/28/de...s-free-agency/
                      i think i would rather have orakpo if you're gonna live in fantasy land.

                      my guess is thier cap numbers will be pretty close together

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
                        I know Red Bryant is a Seattle cap casualty as of a few days ago, so he's not likely going to accept a lot less money than what he was hoping to make, because some other team will probably see him as an upgrade at DE. He's 6'4 and weighs 323 and is known to be an excellent run stopper. But, he'll be 30 years old on April 18th. I know there are those who will argue that you wouldn't pay a big contract to a guy like this, given age and likely salary demands, but man would he look good in a Packer uniform. Holding the point of attack, keeping the linebackers clean to do what they are supposed to do.
                        this i would see as a realistic option for us. he's probably won't receive a huge contract, if he was, it probably already would have happened

                        i would have to question if TT really would sign a guy who's 30 or over. he likes his boys young

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by red View Post
                          this i would see as a realistic option for us. he's probably won't receive a huge contract, if he was, it probably already would have happened

                          i would have to question if TT really would sign a guy who's 30 or over. he likes his boys young
                          Young comes at a cost.

                          Inexperience and a too often a general lack of poise under fire.
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                          • #73
                            With NFL free agency rapidly approaching, the rumor mill surrounding the league is full swing, with a lot of buzz abounding about some of the top remaining players on the market.


                            NFL Free Agency 2014: Breaking Down Latest Rumors About Top Targets

                            By Alex Koma , Featured Columnist

                            March 2, 2014

                            RE: The Redskins OLB Brian Orakpo ... The Ravens LT Eugene Monroe.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Its actually a wee bit more complicated than a simple designation from the GameDay Program...
                              sure, I agree with your post. Just calling a guy a TE, doesn't mean that's what he is. But does Finley get to be a WR because he refuses to/doesn't block well? Or does a taller, bigger WR get designated a TE because they run a lot of bubble screens/runs and are blocking more? Will the committee go deep into the weeds to account for whether a player blocks a DE/LB more than a DB? Next up: Brian Bostick! Fun times at the league office!
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                                Young comes at a cost.

                                Inexperience and a too often a general lack of poise under fire.
                                Yeah, the young Seahawks team sure seemed to have a lack of poise last year.
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