Packers re-sign Shields, 4 year $39 million

[3irty1]

Well the guys who do it for a living must be thinking the best is yet to come from Mr. Shields. Hopefully the rest of the FA CB contracts look at least comparable. That is a lot of money for Sam IMO.

[Packman_26]

The Profootballtalk link has the info I just did the math. 12.5/4 is 3.125 per year. He'll receive 15 mil this year 2.5+12.5. 21 by his second year, 21-12.5-2.5=6. 30 by the third year, 30-12.5-2.5-6=9. 39 total, 39-12.5-2.5-6-9=9

[red]

Well the guys who do it for a living must be thinking the best is yet to come from Mr. Shields. Hopefully the rest of the FA CB contracts look at least comparable. That is a lot of money for Sam IMO.

yeah

i'm happy sam is back

but man, i can't help but think we just greatly overpaid for one of our own again

hopefully with the cap going up, and with sam continuing to improve, those 12.1 million a year cap numbers won't seem so huge when we get there

the first 2 years i'm fine with, those last 2 just looks really big, almost "funny" looking to me

[Guiness]

Thanks were did you find that? Or did you do (39-12.5)/4? In that case its 6.625.

edit: saw someone else post on another forum


This makes more sense the article says he makes 15 mil year one and 21 total the first two.

Pacman's numbers work too. If you add the 12.5 signing bonus to a 2.5 first year salary, there's your 15. 6mil base in year 2 gives you 21.

His numbers are a pretty decent deal for the team. Years 3 and 4's salary are high, but the cap should be up to compensate by then. If it isn't, or his play takes a downturn the team can cut him after year 2 and gain 2.75M in cap space.
Deals like you're showing with high salaries up front and lower salaries in later years can backfire on the team - player gets a 'what have you done for me lately attitude', looks at his base in later years and thinks he's underpaid.

[red]

The Profootballtalk link has the info I just did the math. 12.5/4 is 3.125 per year. He'll receive 15 mil this year 2.5+12.5. 21 by his second year, 21-12.5-2.5=9. 30 by the third year, 30-12.5-2.5-6=9. 39 total, 39-12.5-2.5-6-9=9

yeah, i did the numbers too based on the PFT numbers, and you're numbers look right, the only way it would look different is if there are some roster bonuses thrown in in years 3 or 4 or something like that, otherwise they look spot on to me

[red]

Pacman's numbers work too. If you add the 12.5 signing bonus to a 2.5 first year salary, there's your 15. 6mil base in year 2 gives you 21.

His numbers are a pretty decent deal for the team. Years 3 and 4's salary are high, but the cap should be up to compensate by then. If it isn't, or his play takes a downturn the team can cut him after year 2 and gain 2.75M in cap space.
Deals like you're showing with high salaries up front and lower salaries in later years can backfire on the team - player gets a 'what have you done for me lately attitude', looks at his base in later years and thinks he's underpaid.

yup, when they don't see the $$$$ coming in during those later years they start to bitch, forgetting that the signing bonus and the front loaded $$$$ were all part of the same deal

[SMBASS]

Glad we got him re-signed but I was hoping for 4 years more in 24-28 million range. (I realize with the structuring and contract games there's a lot more to it than just the gross number.) He's the one D player that I wanted to keep the most but that's a lot of change just to keep part of what I still consider a sucky D status quo. Hopefully between the rest of free agency, the draft, and getting some guys healthy well figure out a way to make some serious improvements on that side of the ball. As Red alluded to, something's still not right when our bottom of barrel the D takes up more of our salary cap than our upper tier O.

[run pMc]

Glad he signed, but that's a lot of money. He's not a $10M/yr CB IMO, but maybe his performance and the market in a few years will make that contract look like a bargain. Tramon's contract was for 4y/$33M, so maybe paying Shields $39M is the cost of doing business. They'll need a CB on a rookie contract at the other spot to keep that position from counting too much overall -- look for TT to draft a CB or find one off the PS who can play.

With how Tramon played the last half of the season, he has negotiating leverage and likely won't take a pay "cut" without some incentives (extra years, more guaranteed money, etc.).

[red]

so, we still have about 28 or 29 million in cap space to spend

i say lets blow another big chunk on byrd

sign tyson jackson for 4 or 5 a year

then draft a TE and new ILB (mosely)

defense is a lot closer to being fixed

[Willard]

His first expenditures should be sending gift baskets to those who helped him get this contract: Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, and Cordarrelle Patterson.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The Profootballtalk link has the info I just did the math. 12.5/4 is 3.125 per year. He'll receive 15 mil this year 2.5+12.5. 21 by his second year, 21-12.5-2.5=9. 30 by the third year, 30-12.5-2.5-6=9. 39 total, 39-12.5-2.5-6-9=9

Oh okay I see. That makes sense I see how it works.

[smuggler]

We have the option to back out after two years and pay just more than $20 mil. If he's continued to improve, we can keep him for about that much more over the last two years, or even extend him. It's a premium, no doubt, but he's honestly our best cover corner and we could have done much worse, IMO.

[OS PA]

Glad he signed, but that's a lot of money. He's not a $10M/yr CB IMO, but maybe his performance and the market in a few years will make that contract look like a bargain. Tramon's contract was for 4y/$33M, so maybe paying Shields $39M is the cost of doing business. They'll need a CB on a rookie contract at the other spot to keep that position from counting too much overall -- look for TT to draft a CB or find one off the PS who can play.

With how Tramon played the last half of the season, he has negotiating leverage and likely won't take a pay "cut" without some incentives (extra years, more guaranteed money, etc.).

Enter Casey Hayward.

[woodbuck27]

Big money for Sam Shields but we needed this UFA.

If he had gotten away the secondary would have a lot of heat on it.

The cost seems higher than expected but TT got it done.

Good job Ted Thompson.

GO PACK GO !

[pbmax]

The contract has $12.5 mil in guaranteed money. If Shields regresses or just doesn't continue to develop, the Packers can get out of that contract without too much headache in a few seasons. If he does continue to develop, then he gets paid accordingly. Probably fair for both sides.

Yeah, the headline numbers are BIG, but the guaranteed number, which also could be inflated, is manageable. Nice to have this done.