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  • #31
    Originally posted by red View Post
    well good news, a lot of money, but with the cap expected to hit 160 by 2015 he's numbers won't hurt so bad

    i will say its about 4 million a year more then his agent said they were looking for just a couple weeks ago. still gotta wonder if we couldn't have gotten him for cheaper if we had tried to sign him during the year,

    but oh well, we got our best CB back. and now its time to talk to the other cb about taking a pay cut
    Oh come on. For the past few weeks all I've heard is hand wringing about getting shields signed and now because it's what, 2 mil a year more than you expected it's suddenly a concern? What happened to him being the guy we couldn't let go? At least woodbuck can call a spade a spade and give credit where it's due. Dude rails on TT on a regular basis but when he pulls a good move, he gives him cred.

    And c'mon Red! I expect way better of you with the whole "should of tried to sign him during the year" talk. We have no idea how hard TT pushed to get him signed during the year. Rosenhouse is a really good agent, there's a good possibility he wouldn't let a signing happen, especially when he saw how good shields was doing because he knew it would drive up the price.

    This is a good thing, and honestly, if Shields keeps on his path, he's a huge signing. The dude can cover opposing #1's with regular consistency and that's great! He's not getting paid shut down money, he's getting paid #1 corner money which is more than fair.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Willard View Post
      His first expenditures should be sending gift baskets to those who helped him get this contract: Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Alshon Jeffery, and Cordarrelle Patterson.
      And Davon House (regression) and Casey Hawyard (Packer Hamstrings).

      Shields bet on himself and won. Good for him. He's expensive for 2 years, if he plays well enough to stick around, he'll be cheap in Years 3 and 4. That expense in the first two years is the price of not guaranteeing half the contract like Tim Jennings.

      The player point of view is the franchise tag for two years nets more than $24 million guaranteed in each year its tendered. He came in more than $3 mil under that.
      Last edited by pbmax; 03-08-2014, 08:03 PM.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
        We have no idea how hard TT pushed to get him signed during the year. Rosenhouse is a really good agent, there's a good possibility he wouldn't let a signing happen, especially when he saw how good shields was doing because he knew it would drive up the price.
        That's what I expect happened, Rosenhaus convinced him to wait as he was so close to a big FA payday. Oh so chancy though, he got knocked out of the game vs the 49ers after taking a shot to the knee - he coulda cost himself a lot of money if he'd been seriously hurt.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Guiness View Post
          That's what I expect happened, Rosenhaus convinced him to wait as he was so close to a big FA payday. Oh so chancy though, he got knocked out of the game vs the 49ers after taking a shot to the knee - he coulda cost himself a lot of money if he'd been seriously hurt.
          With the year he was having and a full off season to recover, he still would of made some pretty good cash. Maybe not this good but that's what betting on yourself means.
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          • #35
            Aaron Rodgers ‏@AaronRodgers12 8m
            Pumped to see that @ShieldSam37 is gonna be a Packer for years to come! Excellent player and teammate. Packer Nation gotta be excited
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by red View Post
              yeah

              i'm happy sam is back

              but man, i can't help but think we just greatly overpaid for one of our own again

              hopefully with the cap going up, and with sam continuing to improve, those 12.1 million a year cap numbers won't seem so huge when we get there

              the first 2 years i'm fine with, those last 2 just looks really big, almost "funny" looking to me
              I think the numbers are reasonable. 10 million per year put Sam below what the elite CB's are getting with the franchise tag number being almost 12 million for CB's. By the time you get to the last year of the contract, the franchise number for CB's will probably be higher still.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                That expense in the first two years is the price of not guaranteeing half the contract like Tim Jennings.
                Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 2h
                Shields' guaranteed money is only slightly above that of #Bears CB Tim Jennings ($11M). That was what the #Packers had to beat w/$39M total.

                Could also say he got more total guaranteed money than Jennings and NEARLY the entire value of TJ's deal in 2 years. But with that price, they can say goodbye after Year 2. Bears would have to wait for Year 3 probably.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #38
                  Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod 2h
                  Do you have something to tell us, Sam? RT @ShieldSam37 God is Good!!!!

                  Sorta means his Tweet yesterday was about this deal.

                  Jersey Al - ALLGBP ‏@JerseyAlGBP 11m
                  This--> RT @MattBowen41: @Aaron_Nagler @TundraVision Young CB in his prime playing years with man-coverage skills. Not easy to find...

                  Tramon Williams ‏@HighRizer38 16m
                  Congrats to my bro @ShieldSam37 for getting what he deserves! I've had the honor to watch your growth. I'm proud of you bro!

                  Jason Wilde ‏@jasonjwilde 47m
                  RT @show_case29 Got my big bro samshields37 samshields37 back for another 4 years. Well deserved congrats bro. Not… http://instagram.com/p/lTV5WwgYte/

                  The Butler approves:

                  Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 23s
                  Good for both. RT @leap36: With only 12.5 mil gar would you say Ted did a good job in convincing SS to stay,
                  Last edited by pbmax; 03-08-2014, 08:39 PM.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #39
                    If Shields continues to get better and the cap jumps 10+ mil/year the next couple of years then its not that bad of a deal.
                    Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                    • #40
                      great news. numbers are pretty friendly I understand. best of all we don't get weaker at this position and don't HAVE to draft a cb. can concentrate on major needs.

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                      • #41
                        Thank God.

                        Not for the SS signing, but I feel better about my own grasp on reality.

                        Really felt that Sam was the one deal they had to do and would get done.

                        I was thinking about this at the close of the season when I saw a video of Leroy talking about out FA's and what we had to do concerning them. When the matter of Sam came up, Leroy was emphatic that he must be signed. It was like Butler was reading my mind when he gave a number of in-depth reasons why. I really like Leroy and his defensive philosophy & I learn a lot of football from the guy. In the past few days when it looked like Sam would walk, I couldn't believe we would buy Raji and sell Sam.

                        This move is good and I feel better, so that's cool.

                        Anybody think the G tattoo on the neck came into play in this decision?

                        JK JK

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                        • #42
                          Need a good veteran safety now via FA

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                          • #43
                            A little more than I hoped for, but with the huge cap increase coming up it will be fine. Good work TT. Couldn't afford to lose Shields.
                            Go PACK

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              yeah

                              i'm happy sam is back

                              but man, i can't help but think we just greatly overpaid for one of our own again

                              hopefully with the cap going up, and with sam continuing to improve, those 12.1 million a year cap numbers won't seem so huge when we get there

                              the first 2 years i'm fine with, those last 2 just looks really big, almost "funny" looking to me

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                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                I think the numbers are reasonable. 10 million per year put Sam below what the elite CB's are getting with the franchise tag number being almost 12 million for CB's. By the time you get to the last year of the contract, the franchise number for CB's will probably be higher still.

                                Didn't an All Pro CB just sign a 4Yr for 32mIL deal ? Can't remember who it was but when I saw it I thought...he's better than Shields now...but Shields is younger
                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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