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I think we should bug TT's office... you rent a van, and we'll make it into a fake exterminator company. Undercover operation. I'll go in and do some spraying - when I get close to TT's office, you pull the fire alarm, and that should give me enough time to plant some microphones and cameras
No need. We already know what they're saying. I quoted them above, based on your observations.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
Not like Ted was spending money elsewhere. Even if we overpay our own....at least we're filling the roster. Overall I like Neal and unlike the piece of manure Jones he's probably has the upside to be worth the money
Brad Jones is an example of how TT overvalues "his guys".
He'll overpay someone like Jones, and put a substandard player on the field, before he'd pay market value for a better player that was freed up from another team.
Given Ted's MO, it truly is a miracle that we won that SB a few years back... we are slumping into the rut I always thought we would with TT's approach, i.e. a good team, that likely wouldn't be able to build a roster capable of winning it all simply b/c we only have one avenue of player procurement.
We were able to win the SB for a variety of reasons, namely Rodgers getting hot as hell, and playing a slate of teams in the playoffs that played the brand of football we can beat. Also, 2 of biggest contributors to that SB win were the only 2 FA's TT has ever signed - Woodson and Pickett. TT has shown he will never sign anyone like that again - so it's draft, after draft, after draft - filled in with resignings like Jones.
We got lucky to win that SB a few years back, and I'm certainly grateful for it, but I doubt we will have a legitimate shot at another one anytime soon. We have the QB, and I think if Rodgers stays healthy we have a "punchers chance"; but realistically, we are so weak on defense, mainly b/c of Capers (another TT failing), that we're really not a legit contender.
Brad Jones is an example of how TT overvalues "his guys".
He'll overpay someone like Jones, and put a substandard player on the field, before he'd pay market value for a better player that was freed up from another team.
Given Ted's MO, it truly is a miracle that we won that SB a few years back... we are slumping into the rut I always thought we would with TT's approach, i.e. a good team, that likely wouldn't be able to build a roster capable of winning it all simply b/c we only have one avenue of player procurement.
We were able to win the SB for a variety of reasons, namely Rodgers getting hot as hell, and playing a slate of teams in the playoffs that played the brand of football we can beat. Also, 2 of biggest contributors to that SB win were the only 2 FA's TT has ever signed - Woodson and Pickett. TT has shown he will never sign anyone like that again - so it's draft, after draft, after draft - filled in with resignings like Jones.
We got lucky to win that SB a few years back, and I'm certainly grateful for it, but I doubt we will have a legitimate shot at another one anytime soon. We have the QB, and I think if Rodgers stays healthy we have a "punchers chance"; but realistically, we are so weak on defense, mainly b/c of Capers (another TT failing), that we're really not a legit contender.
I think TT was betting that Jones would continue to progress as an ILB after what he saw in his first year at that spot. Jones got hurt which didn't help, but he also didn't seem to show that progression. I wasn't gangbusters about signing him either -- it seems like he's about the same as the other suspects at ILB...borderline starter/backup types.
I'm hoping for one of three things: Jones bounces back and plays well, Barrington or Lattimore beats him out and produces, TT drafts an ILB (CJ Mosley?) who outplays him.
As for Neal, TT and M3 are making the same bet: that Neal continues to progress and hopefully ascend as a player. I'm a little more enthusiastic about the Neal signing, but they still have work to do to improve the roster. MIN's and CHI's defenses got better, and DET added Golden Taint.
Brad Jones is an example of how TT overvalues "his guys".
He'll overpay someone like Jones, and put a substandard player on the field, before he'd pay market value for a better player that was freed up from another team.
Given Ted's MO, it truly is a miracle that we won that SB a few years back... we are slumping into the rut I always thought we would with TT's approach, i.e. a good team, that likely wouldn't be able to build a roster capable of winning it all simply b/c we only have one avenue of player procurement.
We were able to win the SB for a variety of reasons, namely Rodgers getting hot as hell, and playing a slate of teams in the playoffs that played the brand of football we can beat. Also, 2 of biggest contributors to that SB win were the only 2 FA's TT has ever signed - Woodson and Pickett. TT has shown he will never sign anyone like that again - so it's draft, after draft, after draft - filled in with resignings like Jones.
We got lucky to win that SB a few years back, and I'm certainly grateful for it, but I doubt we will have a legitimate shot at another one anytime soon. We have the QB, and I think if Rodgers stays healthy we have a "punchers chance"; but realistically, we are so weak on defense, mainly b/c of Capers (another TT failing), that we're really not a legit contender.
I was always amazed how Capers was great in the 2009 season, got worse in the playoff, then turned it around in the 2010 season, only to have it fall apart in 2011 again. And this past year, again, for some reason, Capers couldn't keep it together and he cost the packers at least 4-5 games due to pure stupidity! Then, against SF, the idiot pulls Matthews, Neal, and Shields from the game and doesn't even suit up Jolly, even though they all played reasonably well during the year. Then he puts a rookie FA - Mulumba in there, gets him hurt, and won't play Perry. Brad Jones was shitty enough (THANKS TT!!!), but what does Capers do - pulls him for that fool Lattimore. Why didn't he put Francois in there??? And don't get me started on how he couldn't motivate Raji. Fucking Idiot Capers deserves to be hung from a tree by his testicles!!!!
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
Brad Jones is an example of how TT overvalues "his guys".
He'll overpay someone like Jones, and put a substandard player on the field, before he'd pay market value for a better player that was freed up from another team.
Given Ted's MO, it truly is a miracle that we won that SB a few years back... we are slumping into the rut I always thought we would with TT's approach, i.e. a good team, that likely wouldn't be able to build a roster capable of winning it all simply b/c we only have one avenue of player procurement.
We were able to win the SB for a variety of reasons, namely Rodgers getting hot as hell, and playing a slate of teams in the playoffs that played the brand of football we can beat. Also, 2 of biggest contributors to that SB win were the only 2 FA's TT has ever signed - Woodson and Pickett. TT has shown he will never sign anyone like that again - so it's draft, after draft, after draft - filled in with resignings like Jones.
We got lucky to win that SB a few years back, and I'm certainly grateful for it, but I doubt we will have a legitimate shot at another one anytime soon. We have the QB, and I think if Rodgers stays healthy we have a "punchers chance"; but realistically, we are so weak on defense, mainly b/c of Capers (another TT failing), that we're really not a legit contender.
Wist, you are sounding like a democrat defending obama. It doesn't matter the results, those are simply fluky things that vary. Our ideas are correct, and its a coincidence when the economy tanks and stays recessed like it did when Roosevelt did the exact same things Obama is doing.
TT didn't win a superbowl by "fluke". He built that team....you didn't build that team.
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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