Where do we think the Packers rate in the NFC ???

[mraynrand]

how can they be a better unit then they were last year when they are the exact same people?

unless it really is + by -, and IF hayward can comeback from his injury, and IF hyde is moved to and can play safety.

but if the plan is hyde at safety, and hayward can't come back, then we're in big trouble imo

Packers started the year with McMillian and Jennings in bigger roles and Burnett and Richardson out with injury. Start this year with Burnett and Richardson and you're already much improved over the 2013 opener. Right now their safety depth is Banjo. I don't assume they will 'switch' either Hayward or Hyde to a safety role, but will use them in packages to effectively do the same. I would assume they will address safety depth in the draft and perhaps pick up a veteran yet to be released.

[pbmax]

and we lost that shit safety and have replaced him with nothing

at this point wouldn't that make us worse off at the position

No, because Richardson at the LOS and Burnett deep is not ideal but played better then when Jennings was in there. You would worry about being in 2 deep though.

[Pugger]

and we lost that shit safety and have replaced him with nothing

at this point wouldn't that make us worse off at the position

as for the bears only being 8-8 last year, i guess injuries only matter when making excuses about why the packers sucked last year

the bears are closer to us then people want to believe

now having said that, i have no doubt the bears will go 2-14 next season and make me look like a complete asshole

Wouldn't you call that addition by subtraction? We'll get a safety in this draft and that kid will be light years better than the poor kid the bares took from us.

[bobblehead]

They won the last game by a FG. That's pretty close to same tier with two starters on D lost in the freaking game.

the 2 highest paid starters. The 2 most effective starters. But don't trifle me with details, TT sucks because the D isn't gettin er done.

[bobblehead]

The Bears? Please. If you are going in include the Bears then add the Lions.

I do think Philly belongs in the conversation, however.

I agree about philly, but I want to see Chip Kelly's offense with an offseason of preparation.

[Packgator]

Current Las Vegas odds to win NFC....

Seahawks...... +200
49ers............ +300
Packers......... +500
Eagles........... +800
Saints........... +900
Panthers....... +1200
Cowboys....... +1500
Falcons......... +1500
Bears........... +2000
Giants.......... +2000
Lions............ +2000
Cardinals...... +2000
Redskins...... +2700
Rams........... +3000
Bucs............ +3700
Vikings.........+4500

[Striker]

I'd say top of tier 2, tier 1.5 if possible.

[Tony Oday]

Top Team in the NFC. AR with a whole off-season with Lacy should keep DC up at night. We were Hyde holding on to a pick away from beating SF and I think SEA was a fluke last year.

[mraynrand]

I'd say top of tier 2, tier 1.5 if possible.

Pier 1!

[Pugger]

Top Team in the NFC. AR with a whole off-season with Lacy should keep DC up at night. We were Hyde holding on to a pick away from beating SF and I think SEA was a fluke last year.

I donno with that defense I'd call the seachickens season last year a fluke. They may be well pressed to repeat this year.

[Bretsky]

The Bears? Please. If you are going in include the Bears then add the Lions.

I do think Philly belongs in the conversation, however.

I am fine to add the Lions....as well as the Falcons....as two teams that could bounce back hard.

But the Bears were right on the border last year; they lost Peppers and added two pass rushers that should be collectively a lot better than him

[wist43]

You guys probably need to rethink your voting - I'm in the majority

[Guiness]

Eagle rated 4th by Vegas...I wonder how much that changes with DeSean gone?

[Bossman641]

Assuming healthy? Packers are third best in nfc with ability to beat anyone

[wist43]

Assuming healthy? Packers are third best in nfc with ability to beat anyone

I agree... it all comes down to Capers, and he's perfectly capable of putting together a winning gameplan on any given Sunday - but of course he's more than capable of throwing an enormous mess out there too.