Read This, Be Smarter: NFL Route Tree

[woodbuck27]

Am I the only one old enough to remember when the "comeback" was called a "button hook"?
Am I the only one old enough to even know what a real "button hook" is?

http://www.sportingcharts.com/dictionary/nfl/button-hook.aspx

[pbmax]

Am I the only one old enough to remember when the "comeback" was called a "button hook"?

No. But that might have been NFL Films talking to me rather than a coach.

[channtheman]

MM runs the most varied of routes in his passing schemes, he runs 9's that you don't approve of, but he runs all kinds of sluggo's, double moves, shallow crosses etc.

Sometimes, when you can hear a play call, you can figure out the route scheme. One of the most famous route schemes is called 525 F slant. 4 receivers, both wide guys run outs (5's). The TE runs a shallow slant (2), the flanker runs a delayed slant (F slant). This play was pioneered by Cowboy OC Ernie Zampese. Around the league, the 525 F slant is called "Zampese" by DC's.

Matt Bowen is a great X's and O's guy and I really like this article. Maybe things have changed but I never knew of a 9 route being called a "fade". To me, a 9 is a go, a fly, a streak, straight up the field at the snap. A fade is a deep route, but angled to the sideline, it used to be called a flag pattern. The WR uses the sideline runs a deep route at that slight angle.

A fly ain't a fade, but maybe things have changed over time.

Wouldn't be the first time that something I know of now has a different name.

I was thinking this too. A 9 was always a fly, a sprint downfield. I thought fade routes were used in the red zone and more specifically in goal to go distances from 5 yards in and closer. The receiver fades to the back corner of the end zone.

[wist43]

Interesting Info, but there's a lot more to it than that - at what point in the route the QB hits the receiver, different windows if it's against a zone, breaking off routes, sitting down in a window of a zone, the way routes of different receivers affect others - picks, clearing out, etc. Some of that is subtle communication between an experienced QB and receivers he knows, but a lot of it is pre-planned, and from what I've seen, the Packers do a pretty sophisticated job of changing things up.

Is that you and your new wife?? She's a babe... where is she from??

I went thru a divorce too and met a filipino chick. She was here in the states, but we had some problems with her visa and she had to go back to the Philippines. From there it was holy hell getting her visa worked out... I made a couple of trips over there, and our daughter was born over there - we finally got it all worked out, and she's been here for a few years now, but I had to miss the birth of our daughter.

Theres tons of filipino chicks around here... they have an "association" and get together in organized outings. They marched in the last 4th of July parade. Some beautiful women.

[bobblehead]

Am I the only one old enough to remember when the "comeback" was called a "button hook"?
Am I the only one old enough to even know what a real "button hook" is?

no, and yes in my case..apparently woody rivals your....experience level.

[pbmax]

Remember its a safety talking about all this, so they probably cut corners (DB humor!) on nomenclature so as not to get bogged down. From the safety perspective, fade or fly makes little difference as to the name.

[KYPack]

Remember its a safety talking about all this, so they probably cut corners (DB humor!) on nomenclature so as not to get bogged down. From the safety perspective, fade or fly makes little difference as to the name.

I was thinking maybe this was safety talk, too.

F'rinstance, a 5 route ain't called a 5 by defenders. It's called a shake. And Harve's favorite play (Out and Up) is called a "false shake". The WR runs a shake and then wheels deep when the defender bites on the out move. With the audio they have in games (or espec the miked up footage), you can hear DB's hollering "watch the false shake" in certain situations.

In any case, I ain't gonna call out Matt Bowen. That guy teaches me a lot of football. Those old safeties know their stuff.

[mraynrand]

m3's route tree is a pole

palo alto!

[denverYooper]

What a sap!

[denverYooper]

Nothing since yesterday?