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  • #16
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
    I've said several times, Tolzien with a full training camp is a MUCH better option than Flynn. Hopefully Rodgers stays healthy, and this is all irrelevant, but if we did have a situation like last year, having Flynn play would be worse than having a well trained Tolzien or some other physically better QB with adequate training to play. Signing Flynn makes the bad more likely than the good.
    Getting another QB for camp may happen, but Tolzien flat out stunk last season.

    Flynn saved our bacon by keeping the team alive til Rodgers could come back.

    Did they beam the Packers games into Texas last season, er what?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
      Just like the Brad Jones signing, just like the Raji signing, it isn't so much about the money. It's about the fact that the Packers would be better off without Flynn than with him. Hopefully, Tolzien gets at least as many reps in camp as Flynn and wins the job. Hopefully they can still cut Flynn if that happens. It will be a damn shame if Flynn is just awarded the backup job over Tolzien.
      I figured these references were all aimed towards "forcing themselves to get better" instead of keeping the same ol', same ol'. I get that angle for Flynn, but not so much the others. Flynn's a back up. Let's force them to improve their backups. Keep the starters. If you find someone better, make that "starter" a former starter.
      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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      • #18
        Smart move by TT. Darft a QB late if a heartthrob drops into the Packers lap and see how the chips fall. If he gets cut so what.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Guiness View Post
          considering the FA rampage TT has gone on this year, the Pack is not likely to get any compensatory picks at all next year!
          The Packers have not signed any players that would impact the comps they would receive for next year's draft. They'll be getting some kind of compensation for James Jones, EDS, and CJ Wilson. They won't get anything, more than likely, for either MD Jennings or Newhouse.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by smuggler View Post
            They won't get anything, more than likely, for either MD Jennings or Newhouse.
            I could see the NFL taking away one of the Packer's picks for unloading Outhouse on Cincy.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #21
              For those who thought the story about Flynn talking with the Giants was smoke his agent was blowing, the Giants are now reported to be near a deal with Josh Freeman. This just came up after the Packers signed Flynn, so it would be a good guess that the Giants moved to Freeman when Flynn was taken off the market.

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              • #22
                Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 14m
                Interesting sidenote: The #Packers had strong interest in signing Freeman had Matt Flynn signed with the Giants.

                Just a Giant game of chicken.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • #23
                  Flynn's going to end up like co-owner of a franchise with all the FA money he's been collecting.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl 14m
                    Interesting sidenote: The #Packers had strong interest in signing Freeman had Matt Flynn signed with the Giants.

                    Just a Giant game of chicken.
                    I guess a GM might still look at Freeman as a young guy who was Pro-Bowl not all that long ago, but the wheels fell all the way off last season after 2 mediocre seasons. You have to be looking at him and seeing Vince Young at least a little. I'm happy the Pack got Flynn instead of him. Lower ceiling, but much higher floor.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                      I guess a GM might still look at Freeman as a young guy who was Pro-Bowl not all that long ago, but the wheels fell all the way off last season after 2 mediocre seasons. You have to be looking at him and seeing Vince Young at least a little. I'm happy the Pack got Flynn instead of him. Lower ceiling, but much higher floor.
                      I think I would have preferred Freeman. Yeah, the wheels fell off, but they fell off in a dysfunctional franchise who publicly decided they didn't want him anymore. He has the physical tools Flynn doesn't have and would have been able to right his ship without the pressure of being the face of a dysfunctional franchise. Tutelage under M3 would have done him wonders, I think.
                      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                        I think I would have preferred Freeman. Yeah, the wheels fell off, but they fell off in a dysfunctional franchise who publicly decided they didn't want him anymore. He has the physical tools Flynn doesn't have and would have been able to right his ship without the pressure of being the face of a dysfunctional franchise. Tutelage under M3 would have done him wonders, I think.
                        He could not crack the lineup when Cassel and Ponder were in front of him. Scott Tolzien would have started in front of them.
                        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                          He could not crack the lineup when Cassel and Ponder were in front of him. Scott Tolzien would have started in front of them.
                          I think that was less because he was capable and more that the Vikings rushed him in without enough time to learn the offense, then stayed away to save face. I think with a full offseason, he'd be a good backup QB.
                          No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                          • #28
                            BS. He failed. Did not put in the work in the film room or practice.
                            Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                              He could not crack the lineup when Cassel and Ponder were in front of him. Scott Tolzien would have started in front of them.
                              I think his head was a mess after TB released him, then he's supposed to play against the NYG under the bright lights of MNF a few weeks later...that's not easy. True, he played terrible, but he has the physical tools you want -- it's a matter of whether M3 could work with what's between the ears. The Internet rumors about that are all over the board.

                              Freeman can't carry a team on his own a la Rodgers. A team with some good supporting players and a coach who can figure him out could make noise.

                              I think they'll give Tolzien every opportunity to beat Flynn as top clipboard holder. Flynn's a gamer with experience in the system and respect of his teammates so that won't be easy.

                              Good to have Flynn back as a Plan B. Makes it less likely they draft a QB, especially early, but I wouldn't be shocked if they took one R6/R7 or grab a UDFA and put him on the PS.

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                              • #30
                                It really is hard to believe Freeman is now permanently as bad as he showed in that awful, awful MNF game. #freshstart
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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