Who Should TT Pick In the First Round? 3.0 Final Version

[Pugger]

Trade down for Ward. I wouldn't be surprised by Mosley but that injury history would have me on edge. I am curious if Shazier fits Thompson's measurables for ILB, but if he does I would like to have the speed. Waiting until the late second to get a safety might mean taking a Ted unknown special.

If Pryor is gone I'd go that route and take Ward in the 2nd. Mosley and Ha-Ha will be long gone.

[Patler]

If the draft is deep, why would a team want to trade up?

I do hate Ohio State as much as the next guy, but Shazier is violent with his hands getting off blocks, very fast, and seems to really have a head for the game. Make it happen cap'n

A draft can be deep, but still have a limited number of special players. Because of a lot of players available at most positions, teams searching for need might bypass a guy at another position for the same reasons that Rodgers fell. If TT sees a guy still available at pick #16 that he felt was a top five talent, he might want to go up and get him.

As I stated earlier, I really think the Packers need a special player or two more than they need three or four good players. This could be the year to do that. Given that he has extra picks and the draft is deep, his chances of getting a decent player at #98 (3rd) and #176 (5th) are better than other years If he can use #53 (2nd) and/or #85 (3rd) and or #121 (4th) with his 1st round pick to get a potentially special player, why not do it? Would you rather get four or five potentially good players, or one potentially special player and two or three potentially good ones?

[pbmax]

Don't be surprised if TT takes Stephon Tuitt with the first pick. At 6'5 305 lbs he is an ideal DE in the 34 defense and he has experience playing in it. He had 12 sacks two years ago and 7.5 last year (but dealt with injuries). They're saying if he didn't have surgery before the start of last season he might have been a top 10 pick this year.

Isn't he, allegedly, the lazier half of Nix and Co. for Notre Dame?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Isn't he, allegedly, the lazier half of Nix and Co. for Notre Dame?

I haven't heard that, but if that's the case I hope he's not our pick. I'm not endorsing him by any means, he just seems like a TT pick. With talk about wanting taller DE's he seems to be someone they have to be considering.

[Ballboy]

Went with Mosley as well. Seems to me that the SS position has a few more players that we maybe able to get in the second round. If TT gets a SS/ILB/DT in two of the first three rounds our defense up the middle will be greatly improved.

[Patler]

Isn't he, allegedly, the lazier half of Nix and Co. for Notre Dame?

I've sort of followed this kid since he was a freshman. People like to label kids, and sometimes its undeserved. I think this could be one of those times. After an outstanding sophomore season, he had hernia surgery last off season, then over the summer reportedly decided he needed to be bigger. They said it wasn't from laziness, he just thought it would be a good thing, but some labeled him as lazy because of it. In actuality, he just made a mistake, sort of like when Finley decided it would be a good thing to come in 10 lbs lighter than the coaches wanted a couple years ago. He made a mistake, and realized it very quickly when the season started. He started slowly, but got better as the season went on and he lost weight. One article said he took that lesson to heart, and is now in great shape, even a couple pounds lighter than he was as a sophomore.

Two year ago, at about 320, he looked solid, not at all soft. Some have said with an NFL training program he could easily carry 325-330 pounds. He's just a big, naturally strong, athletic kid. He seems to really enjoy the game, and I am anxious to see how he does in the NFL. I don't know if he is a #21 value or not, but I just get a feeling that five years from now, teams will wish they had taken him.

There, Stephon Tuitt now has the Patler kiss of career death. He will probably never have a meaningful NFL season. (Sorry, kid!)

[Joemailman]

I've sort of followed this kid since he was a freshman. People like to label kids, and sometimes its undeserved. I think this could be one of those times. After an outstanding sophomore season, he had hernia surgery last off season, then over the summer reportedly decided he needed to be bigger. They said it wasn't from laziness, he just thought it would be a good thing, but some labeled him as lazy because of it. In actuality, he just made a mistake, sort of like when Finley decided it would be a good thing to come in 10 lbs lighter than the coaches wanted a couple years ago. He made a mistake, and realized it very quickly when the season started. He started slowly, but got better as the season went on and he lost weight. One article said he took that lesson to heart, and is now in great shape, even a couple pounds lighter than he was as a sophomore.

Two year ago, at about 320, he looked solid, not at all soft. Some have said with an NFL training program he could easily carry 325-330 pounds. He's just a big, naturally strong, athletic kid. He seems to really enjoy the game, and I am anxious to see how he does in the NFL. I don't know if he is a #21 value or not, but I just get a feeling that five years from now, teams will wish they had taken him.

There, Stephon Tuitt now has the Patler kiss of career death. He will probably never have a meaningful NFL season. (Sorry, kid!)

Bretsky hasn't yet said he wants TT to draft him, so he might have a chance. I agree with your summation of him though.

[Bretsky]

Bretsky hasn't yet said he wants TT to draft him, so he might have a chance. I agree with your summation of him though.

I don't want either slug from Notre Dame in round one.


I'm not sure who to vote for but I'm at peace with Shazier or Mosley or a safety

Somebody asked why a team would trade up.

If Cleveland does NOT draft a QB round one a team trades up to get ahead of Cleveland

[Bretsky]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/257031281.html

[Bretsky]

Interesting that Dunne liked the idea of either Mosley or Shazier...but really seemed to love the idea of Prior slipping.

I too think Prior is a great fit in GB. Those are my big 3 ! My prediction is Shazier because

I think Mosely and Prior are gone. Part of me fears all 3 are gone.

If all 3 are gone the BPA may very well be a WR; Scary

[Joemailman]

Interesting that Dunne liked the idea of either Mosley or Shazier...but really seemed to love the idea of Prior slipping.

I too think Prior is a great fit in GB. Those are my big 3 ! My prediction is Shazier because

I think Mosely and Prior are gone. Part of me fears all 3 are gone.

If all 3 are gone the BPA may very well be a WR; Scary

FWIW, in the 5 mock drafts at CBS, 3 had Mosley going in the top 20, 2 had Pryor going, and 1 had Shazier going. None of the 5 had both Mosley and Shazier going. I think there's a pretty good chance one of those 2 will be available at 21. If all 3 are gone, you may be right about a WR. Odell Beckham could be the top player on the board. I see him as a Jennings-type of receiver. I think TT would try to trade down before taking Beckham though.

Pat Kirwan at CBS who is I think someone who knows what he's talking about has been alternating between Shazier and Mosley as the Packers pick. He has Beckham going to Philadelphia at 22.

[mraynrand]

TT lika the safe pick - If he don't trade down, it's Blackhawk.

[woodbuck27]

Interesting that Dunne liked the idea of either Mosley or Shazier...but really seemed to love the idea of Prior slipping.

I too think Prior is a great fit in GB. Those are my big 3 ! My prediction is Shazier because

I think Mosely and Prior are gone. Part of me fears all 3 are gone.

If all 3 are gone the BPA may very well be a WR; Scary

That's my analysis also.

[Pugger]

Interesting that Dunne liked the idea of either Mosley or Shazier...but really seemed to love the idea of Prior slipping.

I too think Prior is a great fit in GB. Those are my big 3 ! My prediction is Shazier because

I think Mosely and Prior are gone. Part of me fears all 3 are gone.

If all 3 are gone the BPA may very well be a WR; Scary

Isn't Shazier more an OLB rather than inside? Can he play inside?

[Zool]

Isn't Shazier more an OLB rather than inside? Can he play inside?

That's the question, but someone pointed out he's only 5lbs lighter than Kuechley. He would hopefuly replace Jones right away. Watch some video of Shazier, he's a good football guy, and we need more of those on D.