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  • Originally posted by Patler View Post
    Finley's deal was a big waste to the Packers. Two years, over and done with, and $14 Million (or whatever) wasted. They got little of nothing on year two, and his inconsistency in year 1 made him average in performance, yet he was paid like an elite TE over a two year period.

    Matthews and Rodgers may not have provided expected value last year, but it doesn't make their contracts wastes, because they have years to make it up.

    The $14 M paid to Finley was a big waste of cap space.
    Yes ...I agree but Jermichael Finley wasn't the only one to be treated so richly.

    The same goes for AJ Hawk throughout his career in Green Bay.

    Ted Thompson was headed in the same direction with BJ Raji IMO and he didn't exactly get that one right in the end.

    I feel that BJ Raji was overpaid for this last "one year contract" given his lousy play and effort on the field last season, and especially that as the season wore on.
    Last edited by woodbuck27; 06-01-2014, 08:32 AM.
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    • You could make a case for Raji except that was all on his rookie deal and no one was complaining about him in 09-10.

      You can make a case for Matthews if injuries keep him on the bench for an average of 4 games a season. He is on his second deal.

      I don't think there is much case for Rodgers after one injured year.

      I think those stand apart from Finley And I don't think Finley's case is egregious. It was $14 mil but only covered two years. Every contract carries risk, but in football, the risk is mainly how long you wish to wait for the player to deliver. He was fine but not spectacular in Year 1. Year 2 was wiped out by that injury.

      So wasted? Maybe, but it was worth the risk. Unlike the last go around, I am no longer sure he is worth the risk, depending on the size of the deal. I think he is going to get a one year prove-it deal to show he has returned to health. But even then I am not sure he is going to be an elite threat.
      Last edited by pbmax; 06-01-2014, 08:42 AM.
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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        You could make a case for Raji except that was all on his rookie deal and no one was complaining about him in 09-10.

        You can make a case for Matthews if injuries keep him on the bench for an average of 4 games a season. He is on his second deal.

        I don't think there is much case for Rodgers after on injured year.

        I think those stand apart from Finley And I don't think Finley's case is egregious. It was $14 mil but only covered two years. Every contract carries risk, but in football, the risk is mainly how long you wish to wait for the player to deliver. He was fine but not spectacular in Year 1. Year 2 was wiped out by that injury.

        So wasted? Maybe, but it was worth the risk. Unlike the last go around, I am no longer sure he is worth the risk, depending on the size of the deal. I think he is going to get a one year prove-it deal to show he has returned to health. But even then I am not sure he is going to be an elite threat.
        I hope that Jermichael Finley decides on a deal elsewhere.
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        • I wouldn't say it was wasted money. I would say he underperformed his contract, but that was due to injuries, not his play on the field.

          I don't think it was a bad signing.

          I don't think he will get a contract with the same (or better) money in GB or elsewhere, though.

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          • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
            I wouldn't say it was wasted money. I would say he underperformed his contract, but that was due to injuries, not his play on the field.

            I don't think it was a bad signing.

            I don't think he will get a contract with the same (or better) money in GB or elsewhere, though.
            I believe your correct.

            Jermichael Finley needs to grow up fast.
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            • Originally posted by run pMc View Post
              I wouldn't say it was wasted money. I would say he underperformed his contract, but that was due to injuries, not his play on the field.

              I don't think it was a bad signing.

              I don't think he will get a contract with the same (or better) money in GB or elsewhere, though.
              You know, that raises an interesting question, one that Advanced NFL Stats looked at a bit in relation to the salary cap.

              Considering all players, what does $7 mil per year get you from the TE?
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              • Seahawks out of chase for Finley

                Seahawks out. Packers, Giants and maybe the Patriots are in.

                Possibly.
                Last edited by pbmax; 06-01-2014, 07:29 PM.
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                • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  Seahawks out of chase for Finley

                  Seahawks out. Packers, Giants and maybe the Patriots are in.

                  Possibly.
                  Haha need to fix your link.

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                  • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                    Haha need to fix your link.
                    could have been worse. he could have linked the gay porn site he had just visited

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                    • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                      So we got screwed on the Rodgers and Matthews deals also? I mean both those guys missed half the season too.
                      I'm looking at the full contract. Not just last year. Jermichael made out well when considering his production versus what we paid over the deal......and that is from a guy who has been on the side of singing him if possible and from a guy who was originally happy that we paid him what hhas turned out to be too much.

                      I'm just looking at the bigger picture and looking at actual numbers. It was a bad deal IMO for Green Bay.

                      With all of that being said, since I still have some infinite blind faith that the talent may turn into production, I would have no problem if Green Bay brings him back again.

                      In the end Finley will go to the team that pays him the most IMO
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                      • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                        I'm looking at the full contract. Not just last year. Jermichael made out well when considering his production versus what we paid over the three year deal. Robbery...and that is from a guy who has been on the side of singing him if possible and from a guy who was originally happy that we paid him what hhas turned out to be too much.
                        I wasn't being serious with the comment. BTW Jermichael only signed a 2 year deal and that was the reason for paying him a little extra. The deal was good for both sides at the time but obviously Finley made out better in the deal. Still was far from a waste of money since they two years he started on offense we were top 5 in offense.

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                        • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                          Haha need to fix your link.
                          Thanks for the heads up.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            In the end Finley will go to the team that pays him the most IMO
                            and that team will end up disappointed in the end IMO

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                            • He should take his insurance payout of $10 mil and quit.
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                              • Originally posted by red View Post
                                could have been worse. he could have linked the gay porn site he had just visited
                                no, that would be The Skinbasket
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