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  • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
    No shit, none of the deals screwed us, that was the point.
    Finley's deal was a big waste to the Packers. Two years, over and done with, and $14 Million (or whatever) wasted. They got little of nothing on year two, and his inconsistency in year 1 made him average in performance, yet he was paid like an elite TE over a two year period.

    Matthews and Rodgers may not have provided expected value last year, but it doesn't make their contracts wastes, because they have years to make it up.

    The $14 M paid to Finley was a big waste of cap space.

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    • Originally posted by Patler View Post
      Finley's deal was a big waste to the Packers. Two years, over and done with, and $14 Million (or whatever) wasted. They got little of nothing on year two, and his inconsistency in year 1 made him average in performance, yet he was paid like an elite TE over a two year period.

      Matthews and Rodgers may not have provided expected value last year, but it doesn't make their contracts wastes, because they have years to make it up.

      The $14 M paid to Finley was a big waste of cap space.
      Once again it was not a waste of money, I'm done arguing with you on such a stupid issue as wasted cap space.

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      • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
        Once again it was not a waste of money, I'm done arguing with you on such a stupid issue as wasted cap space.
        Ya, wasted cap space is meaningless. Mike Sherman as GM proved that, didn't he???

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        • Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Ya, wasted cap space is meaningless. Mike Sherman as GM proved that, didn't he???
          You are acting like Finley is Joe Johnson. BTW who did we have to cut to sign Finley? What impact player did we fail to get because we signed Finley? Who would have started at TE if we did not sign Finley? Did you forget who our GM is? He almost never signs big name FAs, he uses the money to keep our own talent which is what he did with Finley. He was average his first year of his contract in which he only made 5M. Last season he looked like he was on his way to a Pro Bowl season before the injury. We might have paid a few million extra on him just like we did with Rodgers, Clay, and Shields but to say his whole contact was a waste of money is foolish.

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          • They would have been better off not spending the $ on Finley.

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            • Originally posted by Patler View Post
              They would have been better off not spending the $ on Finley.
              You are wrong, answer my questions then. You are just being a hard headed at this point because of your dislike for the player.

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              • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                BTW who did we have to cut to sign Finley? What impact player did we fail to get because we signed Finley? Who would have started at TE if we did not sign Finley? Did you forget who our GM is? He almost never signs big name FAs, he uses the money to keep our own talent which is what he did with Finley.
                Who did he not sign? How the heck am I supposed to know that? ..... Mario Williams. The extra cap would have convinced TT to go after Mario Williams.

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                • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Who did he not sign? How the heck am I supposed to know that? ..... Mario Williams. The extra cap would have convinced TT to go after Mario Williams.


                  Oh you mean his 100 million dollar deal? Give it a rest man.

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                  • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                    You are wrong, answer my questions then. You are just being a hard headed at this point because of your dislike for the player.
                    I don't dislike the player. I just think he was well over-paid under his last contract.

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                    • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post


                      Oh you mean his 100 million dollar deal? Give it a rest man.
                      Yup, he was just 14 million short of signing Williams.
                      Damn, could had Williams......

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                      • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Yup, he was just 14 million short of signing Williams.
                        Damn, could had Williams......
                        Yea then we couldn't have resigned Rodgers or Clay....

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                        • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          I don't dislike the player. I just think he was well over-paid under his last contract.
                          YOU might think so but one of the best GMs in the league doesn't. Finley made 5M in the first year of his deal in which you are complaining about him having an average year even though he was top 8 in receptions for TEs. Last season he made 8M and looked like he was on his way to a Pro Bowl season. FYI you complaining about Finley being overpaid while Rodgers and Clay both made over 20M last season.

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                          • Finley is a good player. He was overpaid. Not the only guy on the team that's been overpaid (see Tramon, Hawk, Raji, Clay and Rodgers last year because of injuries, Burnett, etc.).
                            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                            • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                              Finley is a good player. He was overpaid. Not the only guy on the team that's been overpaid (see Tramon, Hawk, Raji, Clay and Rodgers last year because of injuries, Burnett, etc.).
                              All that wasted cap space.

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                              • Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                                YOU might think so but one of the best GMs in the league doesn't. Finley made 5M in the first year of his deal in which you are complaining about him having an average year even though he was top 8 in receptions for TEs. Last season he made 8M and looked like he was on his way to a Pro Bowl season. FYI you complaining about Finley being overpaid while Rodgers and Clay both made over 20M last season.
                                I think it makes more sense to look at value over the life of a contract. In any one year an injured player is overpaid if he is injured early, but over the life of the contract he can still return reasonable value to the team.

                                Finley was not worth $14 million over the course of last contract.

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