The Cleft Crusty Challenge

[Cleft Crusty]

Cleft Crusty has a challenge for any of you yahoos who think this Kaepernick fellow isn't worth the cash and/or isn't a top-flight QB. Here's the challenge: Give every team the choice of keeping their QB or taking Kaepernick to start. (Note, this isn't a one game or one year deal; it's forever). Which teams will turn down that deal? Cleft can only think of a few. Give your exceptions and justify them. Cleft Crusty will check back later, grade your answers, and give the Cleft Crusty perspective. Prediction: most of you know-nothings will get this wrong.

[Just Jeff]

Well we know that the Packers can't do it, because it will put in cap hell worse than the Sherman days. We'd never be able extend/resign Cobb or Nelson.

[woodbuck27]

Cleft Crusty has a challenge for any of you yahoos who think this Kaepernick fellow isn't worth the cash and/or isn't a top-flight QB. Here's the challenge: Give every team the choice of keeping their QB or taking Kaepernick to start. (Note, this isn't a one game or one year deal; it's forever). Which teams will turn down that deal? Cleft can only think of a few. Give your exceptions and justify them. Cleft Crusty will check back later, grade your answers, and give the Cleft Crusty perspective. Prediction: most of you know-nothings will get this wrong.

" Prediction: most of you know-nothings will get this wrong." ... Cleft Crusty


Way to go in terms of killing your own thread....and how's that:

Your noted or obvious arrogance is familiar and reminds me of a certain brash member who's name isn't necessary here as his narcissistic style is obvious.

I know one team that would love to have C K in it's fold as he owns that team:

The Green Bay Packers.

The Bonus:

He grew up following the Green Bay Packers and would fit right in. The cost of having him is also by the reports a saving over the QB he owns to date:

Aaron Rodgers.

So after that how many NFL teams would refuse Colin Kaepernick?:

I say not many or less than a handful >>> too none would obviously do so.

Most probable teams to refuse that offer:

Seattle and New Orleans and I'll add Denver as Peyton Manning should have three years remaining.

Now looking at the question from an ego/loyalty standpoint.

Green Bay gets beat by the San Fran 49ers because of reasons that may be controlled. None of those reasons has to do with Colin Kaepernick being a more talented QB than Aaron Rodgers. That organization has had several solid drafts. They have a great OL and a solidly competent defense.

Other teams consider that they have drafted a franchise QB but is that QB as good or have the tools of Colin Kaepernick? That needs a closer inspection.

Pick that apart ............Cleft. I can't wait for the Cleft Crusty perspective to be revealed.

I for one am in such awe of your wisdom.

[QBME]

I can only come up with three:

Packers - Arod is on top of the league

Seattle - Wilson is scratching the surface.

Indy - Great first two years for Luck, and he's still learning.

That's it.

[texaspackerbacker]

Well we know that the Packers can't do it, because it will put in cap hell worse than the Sherman days. We'd never be able extend/resign Cobb or Nelson.

Are you implying that the Packers WOULD do it - give away Aaron Rodgers to get Kaepernick? A big No Way to that! The salaries are similar enough that there wouldn't be any "cap hell". It just would be hellah stupid.

That being said, I don't mean to imply Kaepernick ain't damn good and in the short term, at least, worth the money he is getting. However, a QB who makes his living mainly with his legs is a lot more likely to have a short and often interrupted career than a super passer.

[mraynrand]

"Kap Hell" I like that

[run pMc]

GB
SEA
IND
WAS
Rodgers, Wilson, Luck and RGIII are franchise faces

NE
Brady wants to keep playing a few more years and CK couldn't run that offense like Belichick would want it done.

A few other maybes, but that's about it. How much longer does Peyton Manning play?
As bad as CLE is, I think they would take CK over Hoyer/Manziel; and CHI would take him over Cutler by a whisker because he beats GB.

The biggest thing in CKs favor is he's still early in his career and his cap hit doesn't seem Flaccolicious. I'm not convinced his career will be as decorated as say, either of the Mannings or even Brees or Rapelisberger.

If we were talking about a one or two year window (vs. rest of career) the list would be a lot different, but I understand that's part of the challenge.

[pbmax]

Redskins (argue all you want, they wouldn't do it)

Packers

New Orleans

Broncos

Seahawks

Indy

Giants (not as long as Coughlin is the HC)

Cowboys (not as long as Jerry Loves Tony)

Detroit (exactly how much more potent would the O be?)

Falcons (they still believe in Matty Ice)

Panthers (Cam Newton is CK only better)

Steelers (Rothliesberger abides)

[pittstang5]

The Cleveland Browns (Wouldn't do it)

Why? Because they're the Cleveland Browns. They wouldn't know what to do with a stud QB.

[run pMc]

ah crap I forgot about CAR and ATL. Agree they'd keep Newton and Ryan.

[woodbuck27]

ah crap I forgot about CAR and ATL. Agree they'd keep Newton and Ryan.

This is a team "Packerrats" response.

[Zool]

NFL teams are like anyone else, if things are equal, they will go with the known commodity.

GB
Detroit
Seattle
Atlanta
Giants - probably?
Carolina
New Orleans
New England
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Indianapolis
Denver?
Cleveland - joking...sorry Cleveland

[woodbuck27]

NFL teams are like anyone else, if things are equal, they will go with the known commodity.

GB
Detroit
Seattle
Atlanta
Giants - probably?
Carolina
New Orleans
New England
Baltimore
Pittsburgh
Indianapolis
Denver?
Cleveland - joking...sorry Cleveland

Good point.

Then looking at the NFCN.....the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings would jump at getting him!?

[Brandon494]

Packers- Rodgers is in his prime and top 3 QB in the league.
Panthers- Cam is younger, better passer, and just as good of a runner.
Seahawks- Russel Wilson has the make up to be the next Drew Brees and hes also mobile.
Falcons- Matt Ryan is in his prime and one of the most accurate QBs in the game.
Lions- Matthew Stafford same age and a better passer, has shown he can put up big numbers in this league.
Colts- Andrew Luck has the same value as player but Indy isn't going to get rid of a white QB for a black guy with tattoos, the fans in Indiana would riot
Steelers- Big Ben is a proven winner and still in his prime after just turning 32.
Eagles- Nick Foles, would still like to see more of him after NFL defense coordinators figure out Kelly's offense but he threw 27 TDs with only 2 INTs last season in 13 games.

Yes if I had to take a QB to build my team around I'm taking Kap over Manning, Brady, Brees, and Romo who all might be out of the league in 3 years. RGIII might be a better player but hes injury prone and Johnny Football still has to play a game even though I think he'll be a star in the league.

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 2h
Examine Kaepernick’s leverage going into talks: 1 year left, so wasn’t leaving. And how many teams would he start for? 6? Where would he go?