What to do with $13 M in cap space?

[mraynrand]

Maybe we'll get lucky and Jordy will take advice from Omar Vizquel

[BZnDallas]

I dont see either of them leaving... both are Packer People... Cobb is too young, Nelson is the new Driver... both sign cap friendly deals with Cobb getting a lil more money due to being younger and Nelson not asking to break the bank... nothing to see here, move along... hahah

[Joemailman]

Adams would have to show a lot for TT to let Nelson or Cobb go. TT will not create a situation where he doesn't have a legitimate #2. He let Jennings go after Cobb showed he could be a #2. I think they're both coming back unless Adams looks like Greg Jennings looked as a rookie.

[pbmax]

Adams would have to show a lot for TT to let Nelson or Cobb go. TT will not create a situation where he doesn't have a legitimate #2. He let Jennings go after Cobb showed he could be a #2. I think they're both coming back unless Adams looks like Greg Jennings looked as a rookie.

And that was with Jones nominally stating in 2 WR sets.

[Brandon494]

I dont see either of them leaving... both are Packer People... Cobb is too young, Nelson is the new Driver... both sign cap friendly deals with Cobb getting a lil more money due to being younger and Nelson not asking to break the bank... nothing to see here, move along... hahah

ding ding

[Brandon494]

And that was with Jones nominally stating in 2 WR sets.

Exactly

[woodbuck27]

I dont see either of them leaving... both are Packer People... Cobb is too young, Nelson is the new Driver... both sign cap friendly deals with Cobb getting a lil more money due to being younger and Nelson not asking to break the bank... nothing to see here, move along... hahah

Gee that's optimism...no ... OPTIMISM.

[vince]

Obviously Rodgers is a huge part of this equation but this is interesting.

Rodgers & Nelson the Most Potent Combo in the League

Since 2011, Aaron Rodgers has thrown to Jordy Nelson 224 times and has completed 158 of those passes (70.5 percent). They have produced 2,683 yards, 26 touchdowns, three interceptions for a passer rating of 143.9. Plus, they have needed eight yards on average for the first down and have moved the chains 51.3 percent of the time.

I'd love to see how Cobb stacks up by this measure too. My guess is he'd be right up there as well.

I think this shows just how underrated Nelson is by most around the league. Say what you want about raw physical ability, he just flat out gets it done on the field with anyone.

Get em signed Ted.

[Brandon494]

Only people who think Nelson is underrated are the folks who don't pay attention to football. Those are great numbers but even so I don't consider Nelson a top 5 WR, it just shows you the connection that him and Rodgers have together. They are pretty much unstoppable with certain routes, just shows you how much time they put into practicing.

[Patler]

Only people who think Nelson is underrated are the folks who don't pay attention to football. Those are great numbers but even so I don't consider Nelson a top 5 WR, it just shows you the connection that him and Rodgers have together. They are pretty much unstoppable with certain routes, just shows you how much time they put into practicing.

I guess that explains why Nelsons numbers tanked so bad after Rodgers got hurt, and Nelson was forced to play with three other QBs. Oh, .... wait,....his numbers barely changed compared to his 1st seven games.

Next theory?????

[pbmax]

Its not determinative, as no other franchises except perhaps the Jaguars and Titans have as bad a starting QB as the Packer 2013 backups, but Rodgers makes a difference to Nelson on this team.

									Recvng	Recvng	Recvng	Recvng		
Rk	G#	Date	Age	Tm		Opp	Result		Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	TotTD	TotPts
1	1	09/08/13	28-100	GNB	@ SFO	L 28-34		7	130	18.57	1	1	6
2	2	09/15/13	28-107	GNB	WAS	W 38-20		3	66	22	2	2	12
3	3	09/22/13	28-114	GNB	@ CIN	L 30-34		8	93	11.63	0	0	0
4	4	10/06/13	28-128	GNB	DET	W 22-9		5	82	16.4	0	0	0
5	5	10/13/13	28-135	GNB	@ BAL	W 19-17		4	113	28.25	1	1	6
6	6	10/20/13	28-142	GNB	CLE	W 31-13		5	42	8.4	1	1	6
7	7	10/27/13	28-149	GNB	@ MIN	W 44-31		7	123	17.57	2	2	12
8	8	11/04/13	28-157	GNB	CHI	L 20-27		4	67	16.75	0	0	0
9	9	11/10/13	28-163	GNB	PHI	L 13-27		6	56	9.33	0	0	0
10	10	11/17/13	28-170	GNB	@ NYG	L 13-27		8	117	14.63	0	0	0
11	11	11/24/13	28-177	GNB	MIN	T 26-26		4	58	14.5	0	0	0
12	12	11/28/13	28-181	GNB	@ DET	L 10-40		2	14	7	0	0	0
13	13	12/08/13	28-191	GNB	ATL	W 22-21		4	85	21.25	0	0	0
14	14	12/15/13	28-198	GNB	@ DAL	W 37-36		5	61	12.2	1	1	6
15	15	12/22/13	28-205	GNB	PIT	L 31-38		3	46	15.33	0	0	0
16	16	12/29/13	28-212	GNB	@ CHI	W 33-28		10	161	16.1	0	0	0
													
		Rodgers						8 gms	49	810	17.37	7	7	42
		Dreck						8 gms	36	504	13.87	1	1	6
													
		16 Games					8-7-1	85	1314	15.46	8	8	48

[MadScientist]

So with the crappiest QB's in the league he was on pace to be the ~24 best in terms of yards, with AR ~2nd.

No matter how you look at it he is a hell of a receiver. Unless there are clear signs that he will fall off a cliff soon, he should be re-signed if possible.

[vince]

No doubt the chemistry that Nelson has built with Rodgers over the years brings a significant part of his value, but that in no way negates or even reduces the value he brings. It enhances it.

[Freak Out]

Crazy we even have to have this conversation.

[Patler]

Its not determinative, as no other franchises except perhaps the Jaguars and Titans have as bad a starting QB as the Packer 2013 backups, but Rodgers makes a difference to Nelson on this team.

									Recvng	Recvng	Recvng	Recvng		
Rk	G#	Date	Age	Tm		Opp	Result		Rec	Yds	Y/R	TD	TotTD	TotPts
1	1	09/08/13	28-100	GNB	@ SFO	L 28-34		7	130	18.57	1	1	6
2	2	09/15/13	28-107	GNB	WAS	W 38-20		3	66	22	2	2	12
3	3	09/22/13	28-114	GNB	@ CIN	L 30-34		8	93	11.63	0	0	0
4	4	10/06/13	28-128	GNB	DET	W 22-9		5	82	16.4	0	0	0
5	5	10/13/13	28-135	GNB	@ BAL	W 19-17		4	113	28.25	1	1	6
6	6	10/20/13	28-142	GNB	CLE	W 31-13		5	42	8.4	1	1	6
7	7	10/27/13	28-149	GNB	@ MIN	W 44-31		7	123	17.57	2	2	12
8	8	11/04/13	28-157	GNB	CHI	L 20-27		4	67	16.75	0	0	0
9	9	11/10/13	28-163	GNB	PHI	L 13-27		6	56	9.33	0	0	0
10	10	11/17/13	28-170	GNB	@ NYG	L 13-27		8	117	14.63	0	0	0
11	11	11/24/13	28-177	GNB	MIN	T 26-26		4	58	14.5	0	0	0
12	12	11/28/13	28-181	GNB	@ DET	L 10-40		2	14	7	0	0	0
13	13	12/08/13	28-191	GNB	ATL	W 22-21		4	85	21.25	0	0	0
14	14	12/15/13	28-198	GNB	@ DAL	W 37-36		5	61	12.2	1	1	6
15	15	12/22/13	28-205	GNB	PIT	L 31-38		3	46	15.33	0	0	0
16	16	12/29/13	28-212	GNB	@ CHI	W 33-28		10	161	16.1	0	0	0
													
		Rodgers						8 gms	49	810	17.37	7	7	42
		Dreck						8 gms	36	504	13.87	1	1	6
													
		16 Games					8-7-1	85	1314	15.46	8	8	48

Well of course Rodgers makes a difference, just as he makes a difference for every guy who catches passes in GB. But in the 8 games Rodgers was out, when Nelson played with QBs who spent not one second with him in the off season and training camp, he still managed to have 36 receptions and 504 yards. Playing a full season with Tolzien and a guy who was cutting three times in a year he would have been a 1000 yard receiver with 70+ catches.

Here's a thought....maybe the reason Flynn has success in GB and looks awful elsewhere is because of the receivers he gets to throw to in GB??????