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  • #91
    Originally posted by Patler View Post
    How about one who is 25 and injury prone?
    That all depends on how Bulaga plays this year, if he can stay healthy I see TT bringing him back. Also believe the injury might help us resign him for a smaller amount.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
      That all depends on how Bulaga plays this year, if he can stay healthy I see TT bringing him back. Also believe the injury might help us resign him for a smaller amount.
      Likely a contract without a lot of guaranteed money.
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      • #93
        Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
        That all depends on how Bulaga plays this year, if he can stay healthy I see TT bringing him back. Also believe the injury might help us resign him for a smaller amount.
        I agree. It will get interesting if Bulaga misses 3-4 games again this year.

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        • #94
          To be perfectly honest I don't put a premium on either one. Both are great players and better men but neither are deep threats or red zone monsters who get paid the big bucks. Jordy used to be but its been a few seasons since I've seen him blow by a DB and catch one over his shoulder. He's already made that Driver type transition where he's just so good at everything else he can afford to age. Cobb was frequently compared to Harvin, but Harvin was an elite athlete among elite athlete where Cobb just isn't. Hell, if we could get the ransom that the Seahawks paid for Harvin for Cobb I'd probably take it. He's good and young but will always need to make guys miss in order to hit the home run. If your whole WR corps are move-the-chains dudes who need 85 catches per year to get their yards you're past the point of diminishing returns on that kind of guy IMO. Especially with a competent running game.
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          • #95
            Originally posted by Patler View Post
            I agree. It will get interesting if Bulaga misses 3-4 games again this year.
            Especially if Sherrod plays well in his place.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
              To be perfectly honest I don't put a premium on either one. Both are great players and better men but neither are deep threats or red zone monsters who get paid the big bucks. Jordy used to be but its been a few seasons since I've seen him blow by a DB and catch one over his shoulder. He's already made that Driver type transition where he's just so good at everything else he can afford to age. Cobb was frequently compared to Harvin, but Harvin was an elite athlete among elite athlete where Cobb just isn't. Hell, if we could get the ransom that the Seahawks paid for Harvin for Cobb I'd probably take it. He's good and young but will always need to make guys miss in order to hit the home run. If your whole WR corps are move-the-chains dudes who need 85 catches per year to get their yards you're past the point of diminishing returns on that kind of guy IMO. Especially with a competent running game.
              That's an interesting point about Nelson getting deep. I wonder if its him (athletically), the DBs playing off or that he is simply asked to do different things?

              I would compare him to Jennings though, more than Driver, when it comes to his contract. He is probably shooting for something at least one step below the top tier, at least by his numbers. While I think he is campaigning for an aggressive Packer offer, I can't see him asking for Vincent Jackson money. And I can't see Ted paying it.
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              • #97
                Nelson was 10th in the NFL in receiving yards in 2013. He was 9th in YPR among the 24 receivers with 1000 yards or more. I don't think his speed has declined. His 15.5 YPR in 2013 was the second best of his career, behind 18.6 in 2011. It was late in 2011 though that teams started playing 2 deep safeties more to take away the deep post to Jordy that was so effective for most of 2011. The difference is how opposing defenses are playing the Packers, not Jordy's speed.

                Edit: Jordy's YPR in 2013 with Rodgers was 17.3. It could well be that with Rodgers playing, the running game bolstered by Lacy did force teams to play differently. With a full year of Rodgers and Lacy, I wouldn't be surprised to see Jordy rival his 2011 performance.

                I would expect Jordy to sign a contract averaging 9-10 million. Brandon Marshall of the bears just signed an extension this year averaging 10.
                Last edited by Joemailman; 07-08-2014, 10:36 AM.
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                • #98
                  Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  That's an interesting point about Nelson getting deep. I wonder if its him (athletically), the DBs playing off or that he is simply asked to do different things?

                  I would compare him to Jennings though, more than Driver, when it comes to his contract. He is probably shooting for something at least one step below the top tier, at least by his numbers. While I think he is campaigning for an aggressive Packer offer, I can't see him asking for Vincent Jackson money. And I can't see Ted paying it.
                  The main reason you are no longer seeing Nelson going deep is because he is now being covered by #1 and #2 CBs instead of being in single coverage against #3/#4 CBs like in the past.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                    The main reason you are no longer seeing Nelson going deep is because he is now being covered by #1 and #2 CBs instead of being in single coverage against #3/#4 CBs like in the past.
                    Not sure I buy that. When Jennings, Neslon and Jones are on the field (after Jordy took the #2 job for good in 2011) do you think he was seeing CB #3?
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                    • Does anyone have contract numbers for the top ten receivers? Like Joe I could see him at the bottom of that class.
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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Does anyone have contract numbers for the top ten receivers? Like Joe I could see him at the bottom of that class.
                        http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/...iver/limit-25/

                        This link is for average salary over the course of the contract. You can also get base salary from drop down menu.
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                        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Not sure I buy that. When Jennings, Neslon and Jones are on the field (after Jordy took the #2 job for good in 2011) do you think he was seeing CB #3?
                          Jordy didn't break out until that 2011 season, that year we were stacked on offense. Teams had to worry about Jennings and Finley first with other weapons like Nelson, Jones, and Driver getting good match ups especially in those 5 wide sets. I'm pretty sure Jordy was going up against the#3 CB at least half his snaps that season.

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                          • They might have been worried about Finley and not doubling Nelson. But Finley wasn't being covered by #1 or #2 CBs.
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                            • As for Joe's salary list, I would find it pleasant if he got exactly Jennings money.
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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                They might have been worried about Finley and not doubling Nelson. But Finley wasn't being covered by #1 or #2 CBs.
                                Obviously max

                                Was talking about getting single coverage over the top.

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