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[MadtownPacker]

Let's just be honest, you honkies hate that he is acting like a Black QB.

[bobblehead]

Let's just be honest, you honkies hate that he is acting like a Black QB.

Are you implying that black QB's act like morons?

[Brandon494]

Let's just be honest, you honkies hate that he is acting like a Black QB.

At least someone gets it.

[Brandon494]

Are you implying that black QB's act like morons?

How is Johnny acting like a moron? Would love to see how some of you guys would have acted at 21 years of age with what hes had to deal with.

[Brandon494]

Brings up memories of a young Joe Namath (for his off-time exploits).

He reminds me of Favre honestly...

[bobblehead]

How is Johnny acting like a moron? Would love to see how some of you guys would have acted at 21 years of age with what hes had to deal with.

He is unnecessarily bringing a lot of attention to himself in a negative way. I was a moron at 21, but I wasn't in the national spotlight either.

I'm not trying to be hard on the guy, if he performs then he is a character instead of a moron. Funny how perception works. The point is that he creates a circus atmosphere at a time he is supposed to be humble and carry some journeyman veteran's bags. If he shows up to TC with the playbook mastered, the team won't care about the other stuff. If he shows up having not looked at it, then the perception will become twice as strong.

[bobblehead]

He reminds me of Favre honestly...

Exactly. The guy who pondered if playing in the NFL is really what he wanted to be doing and showed up out of shape and got tendinitis in his shoulder every TC. The guy who threw back over the middle after 10 years in the league and knowing that such a play ended in interceptions far too often. The guy who was so pissed at TT and MM for sending him a personal trainer in the offseason that he retired to avoid working out, then unretired and expected things to be handed to him. It was annoying with Favre but at least he earned a little leeway. Manziel has earned NOTHING at this point which is why he isn't getting any leeway.

Oh...and the young Favre was a prick that you likely would have punched in the face had you met him and not known him.

[Patler]

He reminds me of Favre honestly...

Na, Favre did not pan to the media as part of his off season escapades. Favre may have partied, cavorted and whatever, but he did it somewhat quietly, under the radar not with a succession celebrities. The media never followed him around away from the stadium. Many athletes are that way, just as many everyday people are. Favre did what you or I might do.

Namath was and Manziel seems to be much different. Namath did and Manziel seems to enjoy have the media follow him around and report on his every move. Much of what they do and say seems to be for the sole purpose of ensuring further media interest. They live the high life that you and I are unable to, and they want to make sure that everyone knows that they are doing it.

Personally, I could not care less. Some celebrities can do that and get by. Namath did for the most part. Others crash and burn living that lifestyle. I have no idea how Manziel will handle it, but I'm pretty sure we will find out.

[Brandon494]

Na, Favre did not pan to the media as part of his off season escapades. Favre may have partied, cavorted and whatever, but he did it somewhat quietly, under the radar not with a succession celebrities. The media never followed him around away from the stadium. Many athletes are that way, just as many everyday people are. Favre did what you or I might do.

Namath was and Manziel seems to be much different. Namath did and Manziel seems to enjoy have the media follow him around and report on his every move. Much of what they do and say seems to be for the sole purpose of ensuring further media interest. They live the high life that you and I are unable to, and they want to make sure that everyone knows that they are doing it.

Personally, I could not care less. Some celebrities can do that and get by. Namath did for the most part. Others crash and burn living that lifestyle. I have no idea how Manziel will handle it, but I'm pretty sure we will find out.

Technology when Favre played is no where near what it is today...even Favre said that Manziel reminded me of a younger him.

[Guiness]

Technology when Favre played is no where near what it is today...even Favre said that Manziel reminded me of a younger him.

I agree with you both. If a young Favre was in the NFL today, I tend to think TMZ would be all over it. Patler's right, he Favre wasn't seen out with Madonna, or hanging with Magic Johnson. Was that by his choice, or because he was "stuck" in Green Bay? Cleveland isn't a hotbed either, and that doesn't seem to be stopping Manziel, so I'd guess it was by choice. Or because of Diana.

[Brandon494]

I agree with you both. If a young Favre was in the NFL today, I tend to think TMZ would be all over it. Patler's right, he Favre wasn't seen out with Madonna, or hanging with Magic Johnson. Was that by his choice, or because he was "stuck" in Green Bay? Cleveland isn't a hotbed either, and that doesn't seem to be stopping Manziel, so I'd guess it was by choice. Or because of Diana.

You also have to realize how the media made this "monster"

[MadtownPacker]

Are you implying that black QB's act like morons?

Nah, they just run really fast and can't handle complicated offenses.

[Zool]

Nah, they just run really fast and can't handle complicated offenses.

So you think Johnny Football has "it"?

[Patler]

Technology when Favre played is no where near what it is today...even Favre said that Manziel reminded me of a younger him.

....and where was the technology when Namath played? Namath and Manziel are limelight seeking, media grabbing individuals. It's just who they are. That's why they go the places they go with the people they go with and say the things they say. Favre was different. He was likely to party with beer, fat O-lineman and guns in a backwoods bar. For Namath and Manziel it's champaigne, models, movie stars and other celebrities in Las Vegas. They flaunt their money, Favre did not.

As for what Favre says about it, this is the same Favre who virtually every season declared the current team to be the most talented he had ever been on. He doesn't intentionally lie, I just don't think he has a great grasp on reality, and he definitely says what he thinks reporters want him to say. I don't look to Favre for accurate insight.

[pbmax]

Let's just be honest, you honkies hate that he is acting like a Black QB.

No, he has his shirt on.