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Will Cobb earn the big contract many are expecting?
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Remember Driver's scary injury, getting flipped over and landing straight down on his head? I remember thinking at the time it was possible he would never play again. Looking at his career statistics though, you can't even tell when that happened, the guy missed almost no time his entire career! He played 15 or 16 games 11 of 13 seasons (ignoring his rookie year). Took some looking, but it was week 1 vs the Vikings in 2003, and he missed only one game! Dude was made of rubber.--
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But will he get a great contract from Green Bay? I'm not sure it makes good sense from a salary cap perspective to pay two WRs as much as Nelson. Sometimes, you have to accept giving up strength in one position to pay to keep it at another.Originally posted by gbgary View Postcobb will get a great contract...period. one that reflects the market and his stats.
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the Packers aren't even close to having cap issues so a great contract is no problem. he's worth it, Rodgers needs weapons, get it done when it's time. what other core player needs taken care of right now...or next year? if i remember right isn't the cap taking a big jump soon?Originally posted by Patler View PostBut will he get a great contract from Green Bay? I'm not sure it makes good sense from a salary cap perspective to pay two WRs as much as Nelson. Sometimes, you have to accept giving up strength in one position to pay to keep it at another.
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Exactly. Three years ago, some thought it would be a catastrophe if Jennings wasn't resigned. If they had paid Jennings two years ago when he reportedly turned down a sizable offer, would they have resigned Nelson this year? Signed Peppers? Had the money to think about signing Cobb? Could they have? Probably. Would they have? Probably not all of those things. Jennings is gone, but GB looks like they will be OK at WR anyway.Originally posted by red View Postactually, its paying two top WR's that kind of money while you have a wealth of talent behind them on the depth chart, while also paying the guy who makes them all look good (a-rod) huge money, that quickly gets a team into cap hell
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I wouldn't mind shopping Cobb. For a guy like Cobb to get their yards he'd have to catch something on the order of 90 balls a year. He's certainly a nice weapon but something of a luxury for us while in another situation he could be a one man offense. With what the Vikings got for Harvin I'm curious what the offers would be for Cobb. Cobb isn't the elite athlete that Harvin is but has similar utility and is 10x the man.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Two articles on Cobb and what the next contract might look like. Banks said it might be high enough that the Cobb deal could top Nelson's deal. His agent is Jimmy Sexton and Sexton usually gets good deals.
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- When the Packers opted to let proven and highly productive veteran receivers Greg Jennings and James Jones walk away via free agency the past
Demovsky says almost certainly Cobb won't get Nelson money and expects the Packers to keep the two together, sen though there are other FAs to sign.
Slot guys have been getting deals more like #1 WRs as time has gone on. And the cap takes a jump next year. I don't think its impossible he gets to $9 mil per year anymore. However, there is a theory rolling around that WRs, regardless of cap situation, are about to experience a hair cut like RBs began to take a few years ago. We'll see. I hope we don't need to wait to see it play out.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Sign him for the same as Jordy. Not a huge fan but he is showing up, add a TE and we will be terrifying to DCs around the NFL.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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If the question is, is Cobb worth 9 million, I'd have to say probably not quite yet. Even James Jones lead the league in TDs one year, with AR throwing to him. Yes Cobb is having a good year. I'd guess he's probably worth 6.5-8 depending on high escalators (pro bowl, lead league in yards/tds/etc...) to reach the 8 million. Now if the question is, does he leave for under 9 and stays for 9 mil, then we give it to him. The difference between 6.5-8 and 9 is way to close to risk damaging the continuity of the offense.
To me Cobb is different than Jennings and Jones. And I'm not one to hate on Jennings much. But Cobb thinks like a QB, and is on the same page with AR when plays break down many times. Jennings was the precise route runner and had that timing with AR. Although both are able to do the other, these I believe are their strengths. I just think Cobb is the perfect complimentary piece for a great QB and an offense like ours. But he is a complimentary piece none the less. Love me some Cobb and hope he's here to stay for quite some time.Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
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Here's a really good article from Sports Illustrated about Cobb and his contract situation.
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- When the Packers opted to let proven and highly productive veteran receivers Greg Jennings and James Jones walk away via free agency the past
It's not the standard for slot receivers to get #1 wideout type deals, but I gotta believe the Packers view Cobb and Nelson as being equally valuable to the team - especially in light of the rising cap - so if Cobb signs for anything less than Nelson's deal would be good value for the team I think. I could even see it go bigger and longer given his age but be about the same deal on a per year basis. The history on deals in that range (or higher) for a slot receiver pretty much starts and stops with Harvin - and we see how that's worked out for Seattle. Cobb brings the production to command $9 mil/yr. and also has the intangibles that have gotten in Percy's way.But the reality is Nelson’s recent extension could prove somewhat problematic in Cobb’s contract talks, in that it’s a relatively club-friendly deal at less than $10 million per year. Given current market standards, and with the salary cap expected to rise significantly once again next year, Cobb will likely be seeking something north of what Green Bay is now paying its No. 1 receiver. With roughly $8 million of salary cap room that can be carried over to next year, the Packers have maneuverability, but how they value their top two receivers will be an intriguing subplot to their 2015 team salary structure.
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I think TT needs to figure this one out and make it happen...even if it's for more than Jordy gotOriginally posted by vince View PostHere's a really good article from Sports Illustrated about Cobb and his contract situation.
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- When the Packers opted to let proven and highly productive veteran receivers Greg Jennings and James Jones walk away via free agency the past
It's not the standard for slot receivers to get #1 wideout type deals, but I gotta believe the Packers view Cobb and Nelson as being equally valuable to the team - especially in light of the rising cap - so if Cobb signs for anything less than Nelson's deal would be good value for the team I think. I could even see it go bigger and longer given his age but be about the same deal on a per year basis. The history on deals in that range (or higher) for a slot receiver pretty much starts and stops with Harvin - and we see how that's worked out for Seattle. Cobb brings the production to command $9 mil/yr. and also has the intangibles that have gotten in Percy's way.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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It needs to happen, I just hope there is give and take on both sides. Cobb seems like a bright guy who understands how lucky he is to play with Rodgers. After seeing with Jennings that the grass isn't always greener on the other side, I hope Cobb is willing to give a little bit of a hometown discount.Go PACK
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