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  • So pft is saying that a few sources from un named teams have said that the bears might actually have to give up picks in order to trade cutler

    http:// http://profootballtalk.nbcsp...o-move-cutler/

    You couldnt make this stuff up lol

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    • Originally posted by red View Post
      So pft is saying that a few sources from un named teams have said that the bears might actually have to give up picks in order to trade cutler

      http:// http://profootballtalk.nbcsp...o-move-cutler/

      You couldnt make this stuff up lol
      Well ...... it's Jay Cutler.....Yea !

      NFL GM's will exercise more caution in the future; instead of rushing to upgrade the contracts of the likes of Jay Cutler and Colin Kaepernick.
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      • Originally posted by red View Post
        So pft is saying that a few sources from un named teams have said that the bears might actually have to give up picks in order to trade cutler

        http:// http://profootballtalk.nbcsp...o-move-cutler/

        You couldnt make this stuff up lol
        Wow.

        "We'll consider taking Cutler off your hands, but if we're going to let you do that to us, we need a high draft pick too so we can draft a real quarterback for the future. Oh, and NFL rules require you to get something in return... How about a conditional 7th round pick if he turns it over less than 30 times for us next year."

        I hadn't even considered that a signing could be that bad. Jeff George and his attitude wasn't that bad. Hell Ryan Leaf didn't hurt that much.

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        • The Bears last year drafted David Fales - QB - San Jose St. Man, is that a perfect last name for a Bears QB, or what?
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Now it's just piling on.

            At least he can afford the highest quality H20.

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            • Report that Titans could be interested in trading for Cutler. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ay-cutler-deal

              If this happens, do Titans pay Cutler's guaranteed 15.5 million in 2015 and 10 million in 2016? Or are the Bears on the hook for that?
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Report that Titans could be interested in trading for Cutler. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ay-cutler-deal

                If this happens, do Titans pay Cutler's guaranteed 15.5 million in 2015 and 10 million in 2016? Or are the Bears on the hook for that?
                It's murky, but the Bears almost have to trade Big Play Jay.

                There's this..."certain circumstances would have the Bears paying the difference of the $15.5 million that Cutler’s owed in 2015 and what his new team would sign him for."

                If traded and the new team assumes his salary or re-negotiates a new deal friendly to both parties, the Bears could get away with owing only 4 million of dead money for '15.

                The McCaskey's should get rid of coach and front office staff and start over. This is an awful contract that never should have been proposed.

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                • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                  It's murky, but the Bears almost have to trade Big Play Jay.

                  There's this..."certain circumstances would have the Bears paying the difference of the $15.5 million that Cutler’s owed in 2015 and what his new team would sign him for."

                  If traded and the new team assumes his salary or re-negotiates a new deal friendly to both parties, the Bears could get away with owing only 4 million of dead money for '15.

                  The McCaskey's should get rid of coach and front office staff and start over. This is an awful contract that never should have been proposed.
                  Its not that bad of a deal really, if they can find a trade partner, it sounds like they can get out of the deal afte only one year without much of a penalty

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                  • When you trade a guy to another team, you're on the cap hook for his remaining signing bonuses and any other bonuses already earned, but not his upcoming salary and bonuses going forward. If no team wants to bite on Cutler's guaranteed salary, da Bears can convert some of it to a bonus, pay Jay now, and take the cap hit for it, but at least move some of his future salary off their books and cap. It's like selling last year's model at a loss just to get it off your lot.

                    Actually, it's a lot like that.
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                    • Jay Cutler is going to start for the Bears in Week 17.



                      Cutler To Start, Clausen Concussed

                      LAKE FOREST, Ill. --
                      " Bears quarterback Jay Cutler will start Chicago's season finale against the Vikings after Jimmy Clausen experienced delayed symptoms of a concussion Sunday evening and will not play this weekend, the team announced on Monday.


                      Clausen was ruled out after an examination on Monday morning."
                      ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                      ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                      ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                      ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                      • I'll repeat, because I have found this site to be very accurate. According to the "Spotrac" breakdown:

                        - Total guarantee as of March 2014 was $38M.
                        - An additional $10M guarantees in 3/2015.
                        - If they dump him before March, they are still on the hook next year for a $19.5M cap hit after a cap charge this year of $18.5M.

                        Assuming they cut him before the next guarantee and assuming the offset provision applies, it appears their cap hit = $19.5 - (2015 salary from whoever he signs with)

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                        • Originally posted by Patler View Post
                          I'll repeat, because I have found this site to be very accurate. According to the "Spotrac" breakdown:

                          - Total guarantee as of March 2014 was $38M.
                          - An additional $10M guarantees in 3/2015.
                          - If they dump him before March, they are still on the hook next year for a $19.5M cap hit after a cap charge this year of $18.5M.

                          Assuming they cut him before the next guarantee and assuming the offset provision applies, it appears their cap hit = $19.5 - (2015 salary from whoever he signs with)
                          Contract has offset language? That surprises me, wouldn't think a negotiator would dare try to put that language into a starting qb's 3rd contract!
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                          • Originally posted by vince View Post
                            Now it's just piling on.

                            At least he can afford the highest quality H20.

                            Some Bears fans are converting their Cutler jerseys. Putting a piece of tape over the "C" and writing in a "B", making it a Kevin Butler jersey. (who

                            Kevin Butler wore the same jersey number.


                            Sam Shields and Tramon Williams have confidence in Jay Cutler as a passer.

                            Their confident he'll get the ball to them.
                            ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                            ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                            ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                            ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                            • Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                              Contract has offset language? That surprises me, wouldn't think a negotiator would dare try to put that language into a starting qb's 3rd contract!
                              Does seem a bit strange, but a number of reporters have mentioned it being in Cutler's contract. I suppose you could sell it as being needed in case the team ends up with a Brett Favre-like situation in the last few years of the contract. A young QB ready to take over and an ancient vet still under contract wanting to wring a few more years out of his career. It's an incentive for the team to release him and let him look for a home elsewhere, even with a team unwilling or unable to assume his remaining contract via a trade.

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                              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                Report that Titans could be interested in trading for Cutler. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ay-cutler-deal

                                If this happens, do Titans pay Cutler's guaranteed 15.5 million in 2015 and 10 million in 2016? Or are the Bears on the hook for that?
                                Boy, things must be bad in Nashville if they are considering this clown. That team needs other players besides a QB so it would be moronic for them to take on Cutlet's salary and all the crap that comes with him.

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