The Defense - Again, the Defense :(

[wist43]

This defense in just poorly coached period. I coach 11-12 year old football and the easiest way to move the ball is misdirection, making three or four total opposite plays look just alike, trying to make the defense figure out who has the ball. Having 3 kids chasing a kid who doesnt even have the ball. Having your fastest guy just flying around as a decoy while the defense is drawn to him like a moth to a flame. Thats exactly what Sea did to us last night, they ran Pop Warner plays, playactions, our players were frozen. One play Peppers literally looked like he was playing freeze tag and was "it" while the guy ran past him, We were chasing guys who didnt even have the ball.

That screen to Lynch when they ran Harvin to the opposite side sucked in all the GB defense and tossed it to Lynch, MAN WE RUN THAT PLAY!!!!

I've seen 12 year old teams play the read option better than GB last night and thats no joke.

No lane/gap discipline, horrible outdated schemes. Its time to give Capers some much needed time off, he obviously is still running plays from his Steelers/ Panthers days. Anybody still calling this guy a guru, is living in the past.

Offseason, whoever is available on Sea or SF defensive staff for a DC position SIGN HIM.

LeRoy Butler was just commenting on wssp, that he did a double take, and had to rewind it to make he saw what he saw...

He said there was 1 play up the middle where Brad Jones was just completely frozen, and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix had to literally throw him out of the way to get a hit on the ball carrier, lol...

[Rutnstrut]

This defense in just poorly coached period. I coach 11-12 year old football and the easiest way to move the ball is misdirection, making three or four total opposite plays look just alike, trying to make the defense figure out who has the ball. Having 3 kids chasing a kid who doesnt even have the ball. Having your fastest guy just flying around as a decoy while the defense is drawn to him like a moth to a flame. Thats exactly what Sea did to us last night, they ran Pop Warner plays, playactions, our players were frozen. One play Peppers literally looked like he was playing freeze tag and was "it" while the guy ran past him, We were chasing guys who didnt even have the ball.

That screen to Lynch when they ran Harvin to the opposite side sucked in all the GB defense and tossed it to Lynch, MAN WE RUN THAT PLAY!!!!

I've seen 12 year old teams play the read option better than GB last night and thats no joke.

No lane/gap discipline, horrible outdated schemes. Its time to give Capers some much needed time off, he obviously is still running plays from his Steelers/ Panthers days. Anybody still calling this guy a guru, is living in the past.

Offseason, whoever is available on Sea or SF defensive staff for a DC position SIGN HIM.

The thing is Capers shouldn't be here NOW, the fact that TT keeps him proves that TT is far from being one of the best GM's in the NFL.

[Brohm]

TT leaves it to MM to pick his coaches. He could demand a change, but that definitely changes their dynamic.

[Joemailman]

I think what happened last night was largely determined by who was active. By having only 4 d-linemen active, they almost had to play nickel most of the night. It might have had a chance to work if the Packers had gotten ahead and forced Seattle to abandon the running game. But when just the opposite happened, the Packers simply didn't have the horses to survive the onslaught. The decision to have active only 4 d-linemen against Seattle's offense was questionable at best.

[channtheman]

Yeah unfortunately, as long as MM is here, we know that Capers will be DC and Slocum will coach ST. Is this year 7 of Slocum and we continue to have coaching issues on ST (too many men on the field, stupid penalties). DC came in and had a 1 year improvement like he does everywhere. Now he was grown complacent and his defense sucks, like it has done everywhere he has been.

[Rutnstrut]

This team will not go to another SB until something drastic is done on defense.

[red]

wist, we all know you're driving the anti 2-4 alignment

what are you're thoughts on that wonderful 0-5 or 0-6 front that we saw last night

[denverYooper]

or the 2-4-4 at the goal line?

[Armed Rodgery]

or the 2-4-4 at the goal line?

That Capers is a visionary..Im sure he had his reasons for only having 10 guys out there.

[wist43]

wist, we all know you're driving the anti 2-4 alignment

what are you're thoughts on that wonderful 0-5 or 0-6 front that we saw last night

The dreaded "amoeba alignment", lol...

Not a fan... certainly not something that could be used with any regularity. They ran it a few times, but the game was already out of hand by the time they messed around with it.

I ran thru the tape and tried to account for alignments and the results - I'll throw a post together of what I saw.

[wist43]

Okay... blazed thru the tape, with the emphasis on blazed. Didn't study anything - why a given alignment failed or succeeded... except on a couple of occassions.

In the 1st half, they ran the 2-4 almost exclusively. I was surprised when I paused each presnap and realized they were actually in a 2-4. Watching the game live, some of what looked like Elephant, or even 3-4 was actually a 2-4 when I went thru the tape.

In the 1st half, they ran the 2-4 20 times out of 28 snaps.

They ran the 3-4 base only 3 times - one of the plays resulting in a Seattle holding call, so it was 'no play'.

They ran the Amoeba or Elephant 7 times, with 1 play (our only actual sack) being nullified by the brain surgeon, Brad Jones.

So in the first half, the results of the plays were (not in order, and with only scant observations):

2-4
Run +5 yds (on 1st and 10)
Pass +8
Run -1
Run +13
Pass - no gain (sack - run out of bounds, no sack really)
Run +5
Pass +4 (forced a 4th down)
Run +10 (on 1st and 20 after Seattle holding penalty)
Pass +9 (1st and 20 is now 3rd and 1)
Run +7 (on 3rd and 1, 3 wides split left, run right - too easy)
Pass -2
Pass +33 (next play was the other 33 yd gash for the TD against the Elephant)
Pass +22 (1st and 10, 2 wides)
Pass Incomplete
Run +21 (on 2nd and 5)
Run +9 (1st and goal from the 9, 3 wides, Hawk was laughable on this play, Touchdown)
Pass +2
Run +7
Run +5 (halftime)
Rushing yds allowed = 81 yds, and 1 TD
Passing yds allowed = 76 yds

3-4
Pass +4
Run (resulted in holding call that put the Seahawks at 1st and 20 from the own 10 yd line)
Run +2 (on 2nd and 1)
Rushing yds allowed = 2 yds
Passing yds allowed = 4 yds

Elephant/Amoeba
E-Run +4 (1st and 10)
E-Pass Incomplete
E-Pass +33 (laughable TD)
E-Run +9
E-Pass (Sack nullified by Jones holding)
E-Run +8
E-Pass Incomplete
Rushing yds allowed = 21 yds
Passing yds allowed = 33 yds, 1 TD

That was the first half.

[wist43]

The 2nd half, dunderdummy actually played more base 3-4.

They ran the 2-4 less, 12 times out of 39 plays. Of those 39, 3 plays were negated by penalties, 1 by Seattle, 2 by us (Jones-holding and Shields-facemask). So the 2nd half saw us run the 2-4 exactly 33% of the time - a sharp drop off from the 1st half... dunderdummy did adjust.

They ran the 3-4 15 times out of the 36 plays.

They ran the Elephant or Amoeba 9 times.

2nd half results (not in order)

2-4
Run +13 yds (1st and 10, 2 TE's)
Pass +1 (forced FG)
Run +16
Run No Gain
Pass Incomplete
Pass +8 (resulted in 1st down)
Run +13 (QB scramble)
Pass +14
Run +4
Pass +5
Run +7 (QB run, Shields facemask)
Rushing yds allowed = 53 yds
Passing yds allowed = 28 yds

3-4
Run +9 (3 wides)
Run +4
Pass Incomplete (Got pressure)
Pass Incomplete (1st and goal)
Run +5 (2nd and goal)
Run +4
Run NG
Run +3 (Touchdown)
Pass +1
Run +2
Run +1
Run +7
Run +2
Pass +15 (Touchdown)
Rushing yds allowed = 35 yds, 1 TD
Passing yds allowed = 16 yds, 1 TD

Elephant/Amoeba
A-Pass Incomplete (blitz)
E-Pass +6 (forced punt)
A-Run +1
E-Pass +9
E-Run +4
Pass Incomplete (4-3, got pressure)
A-Pass +10 (first down)
E-Run +6
Rushing yds allowed = 11 yds
Passing yds allowed = 25 yds

So there it is... as complete a rundown as I could throw together on the fly. I think I might have missed a couple of plays, and I didn't count Wilson's kneel downs... small things. Pretty tired typing this, so I might have screwed some of the math up, but it's close enough for government work

[Pugger]

LeRoy Butler was just commenting on wssp, that he did a double take, and had to rewind it to make he saw what he saw...

He said there was 1 play up the middle where Brad Jones was just completely frozen, and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix had to literally throw him out of the way to get a hit on the ball carrier, lol...

I would love to see a clip of this. I pray after this pitiful performance Jones becomes the water boy and not one of our starting ILBers.

[George Cumby]

Wist, you deserve a medal or something far watching that shit again. Thanks a ton for putting the effort in, that's a lot of typing.

[gbgary]

people are overreacting i think. the nfl fucked us again with the hardest match-up right out of the gate. a game you can't game plan for against the best, most unpredictable, team in the league. we'll be fine.