Adrian Peterson Indicted

[Cheesehead Craig]

Like rutnstrut and myself said, punching in the head is going too far.

Talking a lot of shit for the guy who has an avatar of a 4 year old looking kid probably getting brain damage.

I'll talk all the shit I want to just like you will.

[Rastak]

peterson overreacted and now faces the consequences.

The punching in the head stuff is what the kid said, might be 100% true, might be a complete fabrication. There's no way to know.

In my mind, there is no justification for whipping a 4 year old bloody with a stick. I am not opposed to spanking a kid, but people that carry it way too far I can't respect or understand.

All in all a very disappointing weekend. As an old dude I'm not into hero worship but as my favorite player in the NFL I do feel a short sharp kick to the nuts.

[Jimx29]

What is so bad about this? Let me start a list:

1. Any discipline to a 4 year old that causes physical injury is excessive. Discipline that causes "scratches" (as you call them) that are still that visible a week later was clearly excessive. Kids heal amazingly fast. Cuts disappear within a few days. If these were truly "scratches" when they occurred, there would have been little to see just a few days later.

2. This was to a 4 year old child.

3. The transgression for which the child was punished seems to be the type of act little kids do. Maybe it was wrong, but did the type of punishment fit the crime?

4. This was to a 4 year old child.

5. The description of the number and locations of the injuries indicates that the "discipline" went on for quite some time. Again, for pushing another off a bike? What type of punishment would there be for something more serious?

6. This was to a 4 year old child.

7. We might debate the merits of a spank or two to the butt with an open hand, prolonged whipping with a stick is less justifiable.

8. This was to a 4 year old child.

9. There is some indication that this was just one incident within a pattern of significant physical discipline.

10. This was a 4 year old child.

11. The pics were a week old. Gotta figure they looked a lot more serious right afterwards.


As an aside.....In all my 55+ years, I have been constantly amazed (and usually greatly humored) by the ways/hows the vikings can fuck things up, but something off-field like this from AP.......well, I would of never guessed it in a hundred lifetimes

[George Cumby]

Actually, a week after is when shit looks the worst.

But like Patler says, kids heal FAST, so that says something about how severe the beating was.

Wrap-around bruising is indicative of child abuse.

[MadtownPacker]

I'll talk all the shit I want to just like you will.

Nice response but you dodged my point about the poor kid in your avatar. Don't you feel bad for the lil guy? He didn't even do nada wrong.

[Rastak]

Nice response but you dodged my point about the poor kid in your avatar. Don't you feel bad for the lil guy? He didn't even do nada wrong.

Hey Mad, you own this joint again or just another hombre?

[George Cumby]

Mad,

I like your point about baby momma raising a narcissistic little bastard. I also like your point that many of us here, as middle-class Americans have it so good we don't know how good we got it.

Rest assured, I KNOW how lucky Americans are. And beating the fuck out of your kid with a stick don't fly, no matter one's position in the socio-economic spectrum.

I've spent enough time in shitty neighborhoods in the Central Valley to know how fucked shit is. This isn't political, don't ban me. Or you can ban me, I don't really give a fuck.

[digitaldean]

Wow. I have disciplined my kids but not by ripping a tree branch and whaling on them with it. Corporal punishment is OK IMO, but the extent that was outlined was over the line.

So, though it is far less important than the event in Texas, how does this affect the Vikes now?

[Rastak]

Mad,

I like your point about baby momma raising a narcissistic little bastard. I also like your point that many of us here, as middle-class Americans have it so good we don't know how good we got it.

Rest assured, I KNOW how lucky Americans are. And beating the fuck out of your kid with a stick don't fly, no matter one's position in the socio-economic spectrum.

I've spent enough time in shitty neighborhoods in the Central Valley to know how fucked shit is. This isn't political, don't ban me. Or you can ban me, I don't really give a fuck.

Part of the reason the world is so fucked up is people can't discipline their kids. In my case the threat and execution of getting my ass whipped with a belt did indeed keep me in line. But whipping the living shit out of a four year old is not now nor will ever be acceptable.

So while Mad is right sort of, there are degrees of things and this line got crossed far and wide from where I sit.

[George Cumby]

Agreed, Ras. Discipline is key. Discipline. Not abuse.

[Rastak]

Wow. I have disciplined my kids but not by ripping a tree branch and whaling on them with it. Corporal punishment is OK IMO, but the extent that was outlined was over the line.

So, though it is far less important than the event in Texas, how does this affect the Vikes now?

Digital, that my friend is a good question. As I am bored as hell I will pontificate on the subject.

Adrian Peterson is not yet over the hill so this will sting (no pun intended). There has been alot of debate in Minnesota of how the Vikings can justify his cap numbers given the devaluation of the running back in the NFL. I believe next year or the year after is the sweet spot for dumping his contract. Normally RBs fall straight off a cliff at 30. He's 29. Peterson is no ordinary dude. I bet he has a at least 2-3 more productive years in him so this hurts the Vikings alot in the short term. If they get out from under his contract at the end of this year they will have alot of flexibility so it isn't a killing blow at all, but does damage them this season in my opinion. McKinnon looks like he could be a dynamic back and Banyard looked good the last couple pre-seasons but let's face it......there will be a big drop off.

I'm curious to see how they handle this. They would be perfectly within their rights to let the legal system take it's course and let him play after this weekend but the Wilfs might take a dim view of trotting him out there given the charges and the leaked evidence.

[Freak Out]

The parents running that petting zoo are now behind bars

[Freak Out]

so you are saying it made you smarter?

Did you ever do some really bad shit? I don't care how rugged you look, next time I see you I'm taking a switch to your ass!!!

I never did anything really bad...I stayed out late or snuck off when I was supposed to stay in the yard....scared the shit out of mom. Pretty minor stuff but the norm was to spank your kid. Hell...in school the principle still had paddles in my time. That said I never got the switch/hotwheel track until I was able to understand what i was getting wooped for. You put a 4 year old in the corner and take the toys away....you don't beat them.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The punching in the head stuff is what the kid said, might be 100% true, might be a complete fabrication. There's no way to know.

In my mind, there is no justification for whipping a 4 year old bloody with a stick. I am not opposed to spanking a kid, but people that carry it way too far I can't respect or understand.

All in all a very disappointing weekend. As an old dude I'm not into hero worship but as my favorite player in the NFL I do feel a short sharp kick to the nuts.

Sorry to see this thing go down, Ras. I've always had massive respect for Peterson and defended him when he said some awkward things (kind of like Reggie White with his stereotyping speech; his heart was in the right place). Much respect to you for coming here and addressing the situation.

[MadtownPacker]

Mad,

I like your point about baby momma raising a narcissistic little bastard. I also like your point that many of us here, as middle-class Americans have it so good we don't know how good we got it.

Rest assured, I KNOW how lucky Americans are. And beating the fuck out of your kid with a stick don't fly, no matter one's position in the socio-economic spectrum.

I've spent enough time in shitty neighborhoods in the Central Valley to know how fucked shit is. This isn't political, don't ban me. Or you can ban me, I don't really give a fuck.

I was really accepting of your post until that last part. That's why I hardly get into threads anymore because it always comes up. Guess I just expect more from some folks.