Official GameDay Thread Week 2: Jets @ Packers

[pbmax]

Too bad that won't count as a 4QC .

Exactly.

[pbmax]

I don't know why people get upset when someone points out that Rodgers sometimes holds onto the ball too long. It's a statistical fact that he holds onto the ball longer than most. Everybody has a weakness. That's his.

It's both weakness and strength. He often gets huge plays off it. Today it bit him in the ass on that drive that went backward. Other times, its just counterproductive (4th down).

[Infamous]

It's both weakness and strength. He often gets huge plays off it. Today it bit him in the ass on that drive that went backward. Other times, its just counterproductive (4th down).

well said

[Carolina_Packer]

its amazing how "off" a rod has felt today. yet he has 331 yards, 3 td's and 0 ints

Yeah, imagine if he was really on, the team might win.

[smuggler]

Anyone know how bad Hyde' knee looked?

[pbmax]

I've got nothing on Hyde news.

Just the really curious situation with Hyde, Bush went in ahead of him for dime.

JSO Packer Chat

Q: Bill - Hyde update?
A: Tyler Dunne - Bill: Nothing on Micah Hyde. Nothing on Andy Mulumba. Both left the game with knee injuries and McCarthy doesn't say much at all about injuries after the game anymore.

[channtheman]

Kicking the field goals early in the game were the right calls. I was very pleased to see that MM agreed with me on this. In the NFL it is difficult to score points. When you are losing, you won't win by not scoring. Not taking 3 points when you could have and than also not scoring a TD can also be very demoralizing to a team. I also tend to feel that you should almost always kick the PAT until you absolutely need to go for 2. I disagreed with going for 2 when we did, even though I know it put us up 3 points. I have seen teams get screwed enough times by going for 2 too early in the game and that single point would come back to bite them in the butt. For a couple of good examples of how going for 2 too early in the game can potentially screw you, see the Arizona Cardinals first 2 games this year. They've gone for 2 on 3 occasions fairly early in the game and none of them were successful and could have cost them. In each situation, had the Cardinals opted for the nearly guaranteed PAT, it would have allowed them an easier way to tie or be up by a field goal vs. only 2 points, etc. (Granted, I can't remember the exact scenarios).

[smuggler]

I agreed with kicking the FG at the ~6 min mark in the first half to total 9 pts because it would have been too big a risk to give the Jets a boost going into the locker room. Didnt agree with the OS kick tho...

[pittstang5]

I agreed with kicking the FG at the ~6 min mark in the first half to total 9 pts because it would have been too big a risk to give the Jets a boost going into the locker room. Didnt agree with the OS kick tho...

The OS kick is one of those things MM does that drives me up a wall. It's like he thinks he can outsmart other coaches.

MM: "Ah Ha, they'll never suspect a an OS kick when were down three scores so let's go for it."

Save that crap for when we're up a couple scores and the defense has been playing lights out. If that will ever happen.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I missed the whole 2nd half (went hunting), so sorta hard to comment. I am very happy with the come from behind win, but we have a long way to go before we can be considered contenders. My hope is we can continue to improve over these next few games, keep injuries to a minimum, and somewhere along the line fire capers and slocum.

[denverYooper]

The OS kick is one of those things MM does that drives me up a wall. It's like he thinks he can outsmart other coaches.

MM: "Ah Ha, they'll never suspect a an OS kick when were down three scores so let's go for it."

Save that crap for when we're up a couple scores and the defense has been playing lights out. If that will ever happen.

The onside kick this week and going for it on 4th down in the 3rd quarter last week are risks I am fine with, and are probably as much for psychological reasons as for strategic ones. That is M3 taking a risk at a calculated time to extend a drive or steal a possession, and it lets them know that he's not afraid to stick his neck out to win them the game. It goes to the kind of mentality a team needs to be successful -- playing with a sort of controlled chaos. Neither of those hurt the Packers. The D made a stand after the 4th down failure and the D again came up with the big INT this week.

[pbmax]

The onside kid as a surprise has a good chance of success. But if TV was correct, the Jets had their hands team out there.

[Joemailman]

The OS kick is one of those things MM does that drives me up a wall. It's like he thinks he can outsmart other coaches.

MM: "Ah Ha, they'll never suspect a an OS kick when were down three scores so let's go for it."

Save that crap for when we're up a couple scores and the defense has been playing lights out. If that will ever happen.

You don't need to do an onside kick if you're up a couple scores and the defense is playing lights out. You do an onside kick for one of two reasons. Either, you desperately need the ball back, or you're trying to change the momentum of the game. In this case the latter applies. I had no problem with it, especially since Crosby is pretty good at it.

[3irty1]

I like how MM sprinkles in onside kicks although this one was a bit predictable. I don't have the stats to prove it but Mason Crosby has to be among the best onside kickers to ever play. Also if you're going to allow a time-sucking march up the field, might as well have it start at mid-field, give your defense the compressed field sooner, and no matter what get Rodgers back out there sooner.

[Bossman641]

I didn't like the onside kick and I especially didn't like it's execution. Top one that goes 11 yards if you're going for an onside. Trying to plop it between the first and second wave of defenders? No thanks