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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
    It was a botched snap. Rodgers never had it and because he was leaning back he didn't have a chance to recover it so I don't know if I'd call that coming out flat.
    I think he meant the team in general was flat. He started out talking about the botched snap because that was the first play of the game.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #17
      From Bob in his Game story on the pass/run ratio: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/275042491.html

      The plan was to run extensively, according to Quarless, but when the Jets defended the Packers' three-wide formation with base personnel, McCarthy refused to run against a flooded box and finished with 50 dropbacks and 16 runs.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
        I think he meant the team in general was flat. He started out talking about the botched snap because that was the first play of the game.
        But had we not turned it over and we go and score in the first series nobody would be talking about coming out flat. I think the entire team was reeling after getting behind by 7 before everyone was in their seats. It wasn't pretty but to come back and win a game like this can be season altering even this early.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          From Bob in his Game story on the pass/run ratio: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/275042491.html
          Isn't this Wist' dream defense? Base personnel against 3 WR?
          Go PACK

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
            Isn't this Wist' dream defense? Base personnel against 3 WR?
            Yes. It took away Lacy, but couldn't contain Jordy.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
              But had we not turned it over and we go and score in the first series nobody would be talking about coming out flat. I think the entire team was reeling after getting behind by 7 before everyone was in their seats. It wasn't pretty but to come back and win a game like this can be season altering even this early.
              But it wasn't just the fumbled snap on the first play, it was an entire half of being unable to stop a mediocre offense or move the ball with any consistency. If a botched first play affects the team for an entire half then something is wrong on a more fundamental level. Consider, by contrast, how the Packers responded in the home playoff game against Seattle after Grant fumbled twice in the first two series.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                Isn't this Wist' dream defense? Base personnel against 3 WR?
                Wists dream defense is one where Capers gets a cornerback to play nose tackle and an entire football forum agreeing with the decision.
                70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                • #23
                  Much is being made about the timeout nullifying the 4th down TD pass from Smith to Kerley, but it seems that the Packers knew the play was whistled dead before it started:

                  @MMehtaNYDN: Clinton Dix knew play was whistled dead. As soon as Kerley caught TD, he was waving it off without looking back at refs
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                    Much is being made about the timeout nullifying the 4th down TD pass from Smith to Kerley, but it seems that the Packers knew the play was whistled dead before it started:

                    @MMehtaNYDN: Clinton Dix knew play was whistled dead. As soon as Kerley caught TD, he was waving it off without looking back at refs
                    Tramontana said the same thing. But House and another DB said they didn't hear it.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                      That surprises me. Last time we saw much of Hayward, it was during his rookie season, and he was playing pretty amazing. It sure seems that his play then was a level above where House is now.
                      Seriously. What happened to Hayward? I want to believe the rookie season wasn't a fluke, but he's obviously not playing at that level now. Was he just playing against scrubs that year?

                      If it wasn't for last-minute financial woes, I would've had a Hayward jersey right now. At least now there's time to see if he can elevate his game again. I can't imagine a talented CB wouldn't play from scrimmage with Bush getting more from-scrimmage snaps than him. So it makes me wonder if he got severely over-hyped. I just don't know.
                      No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                      • #26
                        Hayward missed some time in training camp. MM didn't really talk about it. I wonder if the hammy is still an issue. Or maybe they just wanted the more physical House against a physical Jets team.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Tramontana said the same thing. But House and another DB said they didn't hear it.
                          I remember thinking the coverage seemed light on that play. I don't have the video here, but wasn't there 1 db vs 2 wr in the endzone trying to defend it?
                          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                            I remember thinking the coverage seemed light on that play. I don't have the video here, but wasn't there 1 db vs 2 wr in the endzone trying to defend it?
                            Correct
                            Go PACK

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                              I remember thinking the coverage seemed light on that play. I don't have the video here, but wasn't there 1 db vs 2 wr in the endzone trying to defend it?
                              Check out the replay at the 2:44 mark. Ha Ha and House aren't near anybody. I have to believe they were affected by hearing the whistle.

                              http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...timeout-fiasco
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                                Check out the replay at the 2:44 mark. Ha Ha and House aren't near anybody. I have to believe they were affected by hearing the whistle.

                                http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...timeout-fiasco
                                Just like Pavlov's dogs.
                                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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