WHAT IS YOUR VIEW OF DOM CAPERS

[George Cumby]

Is it just me or does reading this thread make anyone else feel like they are wandering the desert with Moses?

[Bossman641]

He wouldn't even give me Peppers as OLB in the 2-4 playing on the line as a DE. Now he must have counted him as a down lineman I think for this week's game.

I remember that conversation. As far a I can tell, if Peppers and Perry line up as the OLB in a 2-4 and it works, Wist counts that as crowding the line and attacking the LOS (regardless of whether Perry and Peppers are in a 2 or 3 point stance). If it doesn't work, it's an example of dunderdummy conceding the run and running his tired old 2-4.

[Zool]

Is it just me or does reading this thread make anyone else feel like they are wandering the desert with Moses?

More like standing on a street corner with someone screaming at the top of their lungs about the end of days.

[Fritz]

McGinn: Unofficially, here were the top five primary defenders on TE Rob Gronkowski's 31 routes: Morgan Burnett (nine), Clinton-Dix (seven), Micah Hyde (four), Matthews (four) and Davon House (three).

Packers played single high safety for almost the entire game. What zone support was over the top if it was single-safety?

From Tramon Williams: http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...284287911.html

Wist, I've never claimed to be an expert football analyst. But when Tramon Williams says there was not extra help, and the JSO supports that, and my own (limited) knowledge supports that, then it's hard for me to just go along with your claim.

What I'm contending is that you have created a narrative that suits you, and you either ignore or bend any evidence that contradicts your set-in-concrete views. This is something most of us do, to some extent, but you take it to extremes that are hard to stomach.

I think I'll just refrain from commenting any further on your posts. Life's too short.

[vince]

This from the Official Packers-Pats Discussion Thread

Gronk could have 23 catches for 289 yds, and 6 TD's.
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Brady will throw for at least 5 TD's against Capers.
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I looked at an early line that had us favored by 3, but I don't buy that at all - NE is very well coached, and we have the eternal liability that is dunderdummy... I'll be shocked if we win this game.
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I expect this game will look very much like the New Orleans game. Brees threw for 311 yds and 3 TDs, and they ran for 194 yds.
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You guys need to take the rose colored glasses off and look at the MO of dunderdummy... you guys are such homers, lol
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Like dunderdummy has any intention whatsoever of covering anybody??
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Whether we are in base, nickel, or dime... dunderdummy will let receivers run wide open all over the field - it's what he does.
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The Pats won't afford us the same courtesy - they'll cover everyone short tight and make Rodgers hold the ball.
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Talentwise - I think we can win this game; coaching on the other hand... we're way outclassed.
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They'll have their way with dunderdummy - complete mismatch in terms of coaching.
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I wish I owned every Patriot in fanstasy this week.
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dunderdummy does so many things that are unsound, that it compounds the mess we have at ILB.
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The Vikings just held us to 24 pts... if we score 24 against the Pats, we'll get blown out.
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We have no identity on defense, and we never will as long as dunderdummy is our DC.
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And yes, I"m assuming a late Packer TD to make it semi-respectable... I simply don't think Capers is any match for a good offense.
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Dunderdummy has stated openly how much of a pussy he is, i.e. that elite QB's must not be challenged in any way. He will be content to sit back and let Brady pick us apart all day long...
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You guys don't want to look at reality - you'd rather shoot the messenger.

In the same thread, you also went on to rip the OL on the heels of a strong performance both run and pass blocking against Minnesota - on top of a strong run of dominating performances which demonstrates they're shaping into one of the top lines in the league.

Then Fritz prophesizes about your likely retorts before they're even made and you comically fall right into form, ignoring facts, twisting some, and making up others .. and then this gem.

You guys just hate that I'm right, lol...

I would expect that out of the rabble - but I expect a little more intellectual honesty out of you ayn

And you wonder why the homers and rabble take you on with these proclamations. You can only ignore for so many months/years before it's time for a calling-out, so I'm gonna follow Fritz' lead.

Wist you really are a broken record of doom and gloom followed by selective reasoning to support your perspectives, no matter how wrong or misguided.

The one that sticks out to me was when you proclaimed with authority that the Packers were minimum of two years away from being "remotely competitive" - the offseason before they won the Super Bowl.

The (un)funny thing is you actually believe yourself wist. Denial is a powerful force I see.

It's really tough to win it all, but I'd bet my left nut that if the Packers come up short somehow, you'll once again step up on your perch and proclaim how you've been right all along - and the NFL defensive coordinator who has dedicated pretty much every waking minute of his adult life to scheming and coaching some of the best players in the world to stop some other of the best players in the world can't hold your jock or that of the neighborhood Pop Warner coach when it comes to understanding football.

Based on some of the responses you get to your posts, I don't think I'm alone when I say ... It really does get old man. Maybe you exaggerate to make your point (the same one over and over and over and over. I hope you have a shortcut set up for dunderdummy because you've had to have worn out a few D's on the ol keyboard by now), but reread those quotes of yours. You'd have been hard-pressed to have been more wrong about the game - and then to make it worse you try to twist things around and proclaim that you were right. Dunder finally listened. Whoda thunkit. Everyone's wrong a lot, but you're just so far out of touch not seeing it that I don't even know what else to say.

[denverYooper]

As KY would say, "that's one king hell post Vince".

[George Cumby]

More like standing on a street corner with someone screaming at the top of their lungs about the end of days.

Much more apropos. Well done, sir.

[wist43]

Even though there are others that agree with me that Capers has been an ongoing disaster for several years now - I'm about the only that that takes up the fight; therefore, I am a single voice of logic and honesty in opposition to the intellectual dishonesty of the homers.

Capers has, in fact, made many of the adjustments I've been calling for - especially after this years bye week. Last year, and the previous years of wandering in the desert, dunderdummy ran the 2-4 some 75% of the time - he never adjusted, he just ran the same crap game after game, down after down. The only variation we saw was Jumbo vs. pass rush 2-4, and nickel vs. dime.

Now that he is running a 3-4 predominately, and is running much more 3-3, and is putting our more talented players on the field in lieu of Brad Jones and Hawk, we are getting much better results. All of these are changes that I have been calling for forever.

On the other hand - for my contentions, all of you have done nothing but sling spitballs at the idea that the 2-4 was the problem, or that we actually had better personnel standing on the sidelines; and now that we have made some of the changes I've been talking about all this time - all of your defenses of Capers, and protestations of my arguments are long forgotten.

Now you seamlessly launch into attack mode with a different narrative, neverminding that you have been wrong all this time?? Is it any wonder an honest person would not conclude anything other than the fact that most of you prozac posters are nothing if not intellectually dishonest??

[wist43]

This from the Official Packers-Pats Discussion Thread

In the same thread, you also went on to rip the OL on the heels of a strong performance both run and pass blocking against Minnesota - on top of a strong run of dominating performances which demonstrates they're shaping into one of the top lines in the league.

Then Fritz prophesizes about your likely retorts before they're even made and you comically fall right into form, ignoring facts, twisting some, and making up others .. and then this gem.

And you wonder why the homers and rabble take you on with these proclamations. You can only ignore for so many months/years before it's time for a calling-out, so I'm gonna follow Fritz' lead.

Wist you really are a broken record of doom and gloom followed by selective reasoning to support your perspectives, no matter how wrong or misguided.

The one that sticks out to me was when you proclaimed with authority that the Packers were minimum of two years away from being "remotely competitive" - the offseason before they won the Super Bowl.

The (un)funny thing is you actually believe yourself wist. Denial is a powerful force I see.

It's really tough to win it all, but I'd bet my left nut that if the Packers come up short somehow, you'll once again step up on your perch and proclaim how you've been right all along - and the NFL defensive coordinator who has dedicated pretty much every waking minute of his adult life to scheming and coaching some of the best players in the world to stop some other of the best players in the world can't hold your jock or that of the neighborhood Pop Warner coach when it comes to understanding football.

Based on some of the responses you get to your posts, I don't think I'm alone when I say ... It really does get old man. Maybe you exaggerate to make your point (the same one over and over and over and over. I hope you have a shortcut set up for dunderdummy because you've had to have worn out a few D's on the ol keyboard by now), but reread those quotes of yours. You'd have been hard-pressed to have been more wrong about the game - and then to make it worse you try to twist things around and proclaim that you were right. Dunder finally listened. Whoda thunkit. Everyone's wrong a lot, but you're just so far out of touch not seeing it that I don't even know what else to say.

I was wrong about the game - but only d/c dunderdummy ran the schemes and alignments I've been wanting him to run forever.

If you flip a coin 99 times and it comes up heads 99 times - call me crazy, but I'm going to expect that the next flip will be heads. The fact that the 100th flip came out tails, and that is all the ammunition you guys need to try and attack me - neverminding that I've been right about what changes needed to be made - is pretty weak shit.

Since I have no faith in dunderdummy, and he rarely if ever has a gameplan I agree with - the odds were that he would come out with another crap gameplan. The fact is, he came out with a gameplan that I've been wanting to see for the past few years.

As I said in the above post - when I"ve laid out the specifics of the changes that dunderdummy needed to make, you guys spit on me - now, amazingly, he runs the schemes I've been wanting, and we're getting good results - yet I'm still the bad guy b/c I don't believe he'll do the right thing beforehand??

If you don't want read an honest critique of what dunderdummy is doing - don't read my posts. Max will be more than happy to give you prozac version.

[Zool]

Even though there are others that agree with me that Capers has been an ongoing disaster for several years now - I'm about the only that that takes up the fight; therefore, I am a single voice of logic and honesty in opposition to the intellectual dishonesty of the homers.

All hail!

The secret here is, you're fighting with yourself for nothing other than some sort of self imposed superiority. Not one person who reads your rants is sitting at home going "you know what? that Wist is one smart mother fucker. I'm impressed by his knowledge." Not the "homers" and not the "others" who might happen to agree with you. You might consider getting a new outlet for this aggression. It's not good for you.

[wist43]

All hail!

The secret here is, you're fighting with yourself for nothing other than some sort of self imposed superiority. Not one person who reads your rants is sitting at home going "you know what? that Wist is one smart mother fucker. I'm impressed by his knowledge." Not the "homers" and not the "others" who might happen to agree with you. You might consider getting a new outlet for this aggression. It's not good for you.

I call it as I see it... I put my observations out there, and they shouldn't be controversial - yet they are b/c you guys are accepting of mediocrity, and worse, and I am not.

I care about my team and want to win championships - defense is what has been preventing us from getting there.

[mraynrand]

I embrace mediocrity

[denverYooper]

Mozart never had to worry about the salary cap.

[Maxie the Taxi]

You know what? Wist is one smart mother fucker.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Mozart never had to worry about the salary cap.

He did however, have to worry about his tights riding up his keester while conducting. That's not very civilized.