MVP debate: Who's most deserving? A.Rodgers - JJ Watt - T.Brady - P.Manning - D.Murray?

[pbmax]

Romo lead a team that few predicted to do well, and elevated it to a division winner. He did so in such an efficient manner, that he beat Rodgers for highest QB rating. He did so with broken bones in his back. Is that any less heroic than Rodgers playing with a sore calf?

Romo leads the Dallas unit that was expected to do well. If Romo was a linebacker, then his unit's performance would be a bigger surprise and a huge feather in his cap.

[Patler]

A lot of folks question whether Romo is even the MVP on his own team - many think it is Murray - so how can he be the league's MVP?

Maybe they should be co-MVPs, just as Favre and Sanders were in 1997 and Manning and McNair were in 2003. If two guys on different teams can be "the" MVP, why can't two guys on one team be "the" MVP?

[Patler]

Rodgers was a slam dunk to win it all until that performance in Buffalo. His timing for laying an egg was poor to say the least. Before that game a small handful of folks talked about Murray and Watt (nobody considered Romo) but not seriously.

I agree, but why? Personally, I think he was just as good in 2012, but had little support for MVP that year; and I don't think he distinguished himself in either year enough to exclude serious consideration of other players. In 2011, I think he did stand out enough to do that.

[Pugger]

Maybe they should be co-MVPs, just as Favre and Sanders were in 1997 and Manning and McNair were in 2003. If two guys on different teams can be "the" MVP, why can't two guys on one team be "the" MVP?

That would be unprecedented for sure. I don't think that has ever happened in the long history of the award.

[Patler]

Romo leads the Dallas unit that was expected to do well. If Romo was a linebacker, then his unit's performance would be a bigger surprise and a huge feather in his cap.

But I thought it was all about wins, making the playoffs, and the fact that the QB is most responsible for all of that? (See all the arguments against the real MVP - JJ Watt).

[Pugger]

I agree, but why? Personally, I think he was just as good in 2012, but had little support for MVP that year; and I don't think he distinguished himself in either year enough to exclude serious consideration of other players. In 2011, I think he did stand out enough to do that.

I'm guessing its because he was playing so darn well that we were blowing out opponents for a stretch so he could sit on the bench the second half of these games. Then he out-dueled Brady.

[Patler]

I'm guessing its because he was playing so darn well that we were blowing out opponents for a stretch so he could sit on the bench the second half of these games. Then he out-dueled Brady.

HE was playing so darn well, or the TEAM was playing so darn well that they were blowing out opponents? Blowouts don't happen because of the QB.

[Pugger]

But I thought it was all about wins, making the playoffs, and the fact that the QB is most responsible for all of that? (See all the arguments against the real MVP - JJ Watt).

It all depends upon how you define MVP. Is it reserved for the player who is the most valuable to his team compared to all others or the one who played the best? In 2009 Drew Brees' numbers were better than P. Mannings but because his team missed the playoffs he didn't win it. Saints and other fans cried foul. Brees did win the OPOY that year.

[Patler]

That would be unprecedented for sure. I don't think that has ever happened in the long history of the award.

Well, it was pretty darn strange when Sanders and Favre got one award, too.

[Maxie the Taxi]

HE was playing so darn well, or the TEAM was playing so darn well that they were blowing out opponents? Blowouts don't happen because of the QB.

If TEAM is so important in football, maybe the whole idea of an MVP is foolish and contradictory.

[Patler]

It all depends upon how you define MVP. Is it reserved for the player who is the most valuable to his team compared to all others or the one who played the best? In 2009 Drew Brees' numbers were better than P. Mannings but because his team missed the playoffs he didn't win it. Saints and other fans cried foul. Brees did win the OPOY that year.

Ya, but we keep adding criteria/limitations that really aren't there.

[mraynrand]

Blowouts don't happen because of the QB.

LOL. Then no one is responsible.

[pbmax]

But I thought it was all about wins, making the playoffs, and the fact that the QB is most responsible for all of that? (See all the arguments against the real MVP - JJ Watt).

He is the MOP.

The bigger question is how on earth did the Cowboys assemble a functional D? They lost some of their better players and looked to be on track for an even more catastrophic year than the previous debacle.

[mraynrand]

MVC: most valuable collective

[Pugger]

HE was playing so darn well, or the TEAM was playing so darn well that they were blowing out opponents? Blowouts don't happen because of the QB.

If you jump out to an early lead most of the time it is because the offense is clicking on all cylinders and the QB is the driving force almost all of the time. There were 6 games where we were scoring at a ridiculous clip before the Buffalo game. Yes, our D got turnovers but you still have to get points off these turnovers.