MVP debate: Who's most deserving? A.Rodgers - JJ Watt - T.Brady - P.Manning - D.Murray?

[Harlan Huckleby]

1964. Look it up, live it, learn it.

I had him confused with James Brown

[pbmax]

I had him confused with James Brown

I woke up this morning,
and I heard a disturbing sound!

[King Friday]

There are many ways to evaluate the greatness of a defensive lineman. Quality of opposing QBs is pretty low on that list.

So you don't think it is harder to post sacks against guys like Manning, Brady or Rodgers...as opposed to whoever JAX or TEN throw out there?

[Harlan Huckleby]

So you don't think it is harder to post sacks against guys like Manning, Brady or Rodgers...as opposed to whoever JAX or TEN throw out there?

My evaluation of JJ Watt goes beyond sack statistics. The fact that he gets a ton of sacks from the defensive tackle position is just a cherry on the protein shake.

You'll just have to accept that I am a football genius and can see things that you can't. You'll understand when you are older.

BTW, is it that hard to sack Peyton Manning?

[King Friday]

My evaluation of JJ Watt goes beyond sack statistics. The fact that he gets a ton of sacks from the defensive tackle position is just a cherry on the protein shake.

You'll just have to accept that I am a football genius and can see things that you can't. You'll understand when you are older.

BTW, is it that hard to sack Peyton Manning?

I dunno. You are the genius. Maybe you have the ability to decipher what this chart has to say on the subject.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/st...per-game/2014/

[3irty1]

If you take the award for face value its almost impossible for a non-QB to win, much less a defensive player.

[Harlan Huckleby]

If you take the award for face value its almost impossible for a non-QB to win, much less a defensive player.

right, it is award for best QB among teams having good shot to get to SB

this year is coin flip twixt Romo and Rodgers

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Talking heads on ESPN radio today think its an easy win for a rod

[HarveyWallbangers]

My evaluation of JJ Watt goes beyond sack statistics. The fact that he gets a ton of sacks from the defensive tackle position is just a cherry on the protein shake.

He's a DE. A DE in a 3-4, so still impressive. Pickett was their NT. Nix was supposed to be the starter at NT, but got injured in the preseason.

[Pugger]

right, it is award for best QB among teams having good shot to get to SB

this year is coin flip twixt Romo and Rodgers

I find it rather curious that NOBODY talked about Romo as a viable MVP candidate until after Rodgers' poor showing in Buffalo. One crappy performance since the NO game and now he's toast?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I find it rather curious that NOBODY talked about Romo as a viable MVP candidate until after Rodgers' poor showing in Buffalo. One crappy performance since the NO game and now he's toast?

It's more about Romo. It took some time for people to trust that Romo was playing at such a high level. He finished with a higher QBR than Rodgers, which is amazing.

[wist43]

My vote has to go to Watt... It's either Watt or Rodgers, but what Watt has done this year is otherworldly.

[mraynrand]

I find it rather curious that NOBODY talked about Romo as a viable MVP candidate until after Rodgers' poor showing in Buffalo. One crappy performance since the NO game and now he's toast?

Murray set the single season rushing record, breaking Smith's mark. That's a huge deal considering what Smith ran behind. If you watch the Cowboys this year, a ton of their passing game is short stuff, very safe. Not awe inspiring, but still capable of beating any team out there.

[mraynrand]

BTW, is it that hard to sack Peyton Manning?

I assume you've watched this guy play, right? He doesn't take sacks.

[3irty1]

It's more about Romo. It took some time for people to trust that Romo was playing at such a high level. He finished with a higher QBR than Rodgers, which is amazing.

Romo and Murray hurt each other when it comes to MVP consideration. There really isn't a contender besides Rodgers IMO.