Official Packers vs. Seahawks Discussion and Prediction Thread, 2014 Playoffs Edition

[vince]

Goldfeet gives the Blood Killa sign in combination with his patented "suck this" crotch grab.

[vince]

Aaron Rodgers has best QBR Seahawks have faced since October

In the first five games of the season, the average QBR of the quarterbacks Seattle faced was 75.2, per ESPN Stats & Information...The Seahawks were 2-2 in those games.

In the final 11 regular-season games, the average QBR for Seattle's opponents was 52.5. When the Seahawks went 6-0 down the stretch, the average QBR for the opponents was only 50.6. Cam Newton’s QBR entering last week’s playoff game was 56.9.

Rodgers enters the NFC Championship Game with a QBR more than 24 points higher than any quarterback the Seahawks faced in the last eight games.

All you can do is play who's on the schedule but damn Seattle's had an easy go of it since week 6.

[pbmax]

Goldfeet gives the Blood Killa sign in combination with his patented "suck this" crotch grab.

Well, its imaginative, I will give you that. But ...

1. Michael Jackson grabbed his crotch and it was mostly just a grab for attention

2. Lynch's gesture doesn't match anything I get from Google, police or informal sources, for blood killa.

3. Even the police looking to interview Desean didn't seem to believe he was a gang member, but knew people from back home in LA that were, or at least knew something about a killing.

And that story didn't break until Chip Kelly wanted him off the team. So color me skeptical.

[Guiness]

Get some sleep tonight everyone, wanna be rested up for the tilt tomorrow!

[mraynrand]

I think Olivia Munn might be Black Widow.

needed to put the space needle in the background. Otherwise, pretty good photochop. Strangely, Randall Cobb looks exactly like a kid from sandy hook.

[vince]

Well, its imaginative, I will give you that. But ...

1. Michael Jackson grabbed his crotch and it was mostly just a grab for attention

2. Lynch's gesture doesn't match anything I get from Google, police or informal sources, for blood killa.

3. Even the police looking to interview Desean didn't seem to believe he was a gang member, but knew people from back home in LA that were, or at least knew something about a killing.

And that story didn't break until Chip Kelly wanted him off the team. So color me skeptical.

I appreciate it but it's not that imaginative. It's a "K" for "Killa" and the crotch grab shows where the blood flows. Don't believe that one?
Here it is on the side view from Crime Library: Gang Signs - Know the Code


How about these guys with d-shawn making the same sign? And I can't be positive but that wide face, nose and hint of cheesy mustache through the mask looks familiar to the picture in the post above.

from this article - LAPD Linked Two Murders to Gang Associates of DeSean Jackson
You can be skeptical all you want but he (and his buddy DeSean) are clearly identifying with the Crips.

Not sure what you're referring to in #3, but the LAPD has questioned D-Jax in association with two different murders and it's clear they're convinced he's a Crip.

Here's DeSean flipping the Crip sign with the Eagles, reported by CBSSports - DeSean Jackson Still Associates with Gang Members months after being traded to Washington.

and the LAPD gang investigator's comments on it.

"Those were neighborhood Crip gang signs and he flashed them during a game. He may not be affiliated with the gang, but they don't [ordinarily] take kindly to those not in the gang throwing up those gang signs," the detective said.

DeSean's comments on the gestures:

"If I score a touchdown or make a play and my boys at home can see me throwing up the area we're from, that's me showing them love," Jackson said. "They weren't fortunate enough to make it where I'm at. All my friends wanted to be in the NFL growing up, but they weren't able to do that, and I was. That doesn't mean I forgot about them. They're my boys, I grew up with them, and I'm going to give them love."

So:
- Marshawn and DeSean both like to flip the same hand signals in public view.
- The code for those displaying the "K" hand signal is that it's to be reserved for those gang members who have killed.
- LAPD gang expert/inestigator is on record saying that gangs don't take kindly to non-gang members flipping their hand-made badges of honor around.
- D-Jax's associations with known members of the Crips gang and police questioning in gang-related murder investigations are well documented.
- If they're not Crips, they clearly don't mind, and even encourage, being associated with the Crips through their public displays - presumably knowing, since they acknowledge associating closely with Crips, that Crips don't like non-Crips pretending to be Crips, and Crips are known to hurt people who do things they don't like.
Be skeptical. I'm comfortable speculating on this one.

Irregardless, there's no speculation needed on Marshawn Lynch and his general douchebaggery. He proudly lays it out for all to see.

[vince]

That tat on the hand looks familiar too.

[yetisnowman]

Fuck it. I've grown more and more optimistic as the week has progressed. Rodgers and Lacy play a clean and efficient game,our defense holds ground admirably, and we get one key turnover. Packers 24 Seahawks 16.
GPG!!!!

[mraynrand]

So:
- Marshawn and DeSean both like to flip the same hand signals in public view.
- The code for those displaying the "K" hand signal is that it's to be reserved for those gang members who have killed.
- LAPD gang expert/inestigator is on record saying that gangs don't take kindly to non-gang members flipping their hand-made badges of honor around.
- D-Jax's associations with known members of the Crips gang and police questioning in gang-related murder investigations are well documented.
- If they're not Crips, they clearly don't mind, and even encourage, being associated with the Crips through their public displays - presumably knowing, since they acknowledge associating closely with Crips, that Crips don't like non-Crips pretending to be Crips, and Crips are known to hurt people who do things they don't like.
Be skeptical. I'm comfortable speculating on this one.

Irregardless, there's no speculation needed on Marshawn Lynch and his general douchebaggery. He proudly lays it out for all to see.

I'm withholding judgment until I see the definitive, confirmatory Alex Jones youtube video

[Joemailman]

Fuck it. I've grown more and more optimistic as the week has progressed. Rodgers and Lacy play a clean and efficient game,our defense holds ground admirably, and we get one key turnover. Packers 24 Seahawks 16.
GPG!!!!

A little Kool-Aid never hurt anybody! It will be tough. There's not a lot of margin for error, but the Packers are capable of putting together the kind of performance it would take to beat Seattle.

[pbmax]

I am still not seeing it. I do see the K gesture and saw it on the same site you pulled the pic from. But that middle finger crossed by Lynch over the index doesn't match up unless I am simply being obtuse. Also this point, is being a killer, not a Blood Killa (which according to that same site involves two hands and a 'b' and 'k'), a possible boast by an NFL player who has made it?



As for Desean, he has said he has thrown up that gang sign and still maintains he is not a member. There was a large write-up of Jackson a while back with stories from his family about how he was protected from needing to join in his neighborhood because of his athletic gifts. Including some quotes from friends still in the neighborhood. Now its entirely possible that is as much fluff and chaff as the police officers' inferred conclusion that "they don't [ordinarily] take kindly to those not in the gang throwing up those gang signs" which is a way of intoning, I have no idea if he is in a gang, but its clear they don't wish him dead.

But unless I am wrong (always a possibility) we don't see Lynch making the same gesture and I have seen no one on the record claiming he belongs. With Jackson at least, you can claim he is sympathetic and obviously knows some people the police are/were interested in.

[Fritz]

A little Kool-Aid never hurt anybody! It will be tough. There's not a lot of margin for error, but the Packers are capable of putting together the kind of perform ance it would take to beat Seattle.

The Packers sound very confident. Their attitude reminds me of the 2011 Giants. They are ready to come in, kick ass, and take names. They're not cowed at all.

They're gonna win; I can feel it in my boner.

[vince]

Fair enough. Actually the crotch grab likely comes from the "Player's Anthem - My Mind's My Nine" depicted on his hat in the pic where he's masked up all gangy like someone who just came from or is about to go on a hit. If he ain't in the gang, he's a wanna-be, honorary member in charge of public relations.

The song's by The Notorious B.I.G. who, likely not coincidentally, was murdered back in '97 in a gang shooting in L.A.

(Niggas) Grab your dick if you love hip-hop
(Bitches) Rub your titties if you love Big Poppa
Gotcha, open off the words I say because
"This type of shit it happens everyday"

Now who smoke more blunts than a little bit?
What are you a idiot?
Listen to the lyrics I spit like M1's
Got mad guns up in the cabin
Cause Cease ain't the one for the dibbin and dabbin shit
I make it happen, you got your ass caught
All you saw was fire, from the Honda Passport
Or the M.P., what if you see, then I miss ya
I blow up spots like little sisters
G'wan grit ya teeth, g'wan bite ya nails to the cuticles
Like Murray, my killings be the most beautiful
Junior M.A.F.I.A. clique thick like Luke dancers
Niggas grab your gats, bitches take a glance at
The little one, pullin over in the Land Rover
Playin Big Willie style with a chaffeur, yaknahmean?
Stack the green, read all between the lines
A nigga act up, makes the bastard hard to find

(How ya livin Biggie Smalls?) I'm surrounded by criminals
Heavy rollers even the sheisty individuals
Smokin skunk and mad Phillies
Beatin down Billy Badasses, cracks in stacks and masses
If robbery's a class, bet I pass it
Shit get drastic, I'm buryin ya bastards
Big Poppa never softenin
Take you to the church, rob the preacher for the offerin
Leave the fucker coughin up blood, and his pockets like rabbit ears
Coved the wife, kleenex for the kid's tears
Versace wear, Moschino on my bitches
She whippin my ride, countin my one's, thinkin I'm richest
Just the way players play, all day everyday
I don't know what else to say
I've been robbin niggas since Run and them was singin 'Here We Go'
Snatchin ropes at the Roxie homeboy you didn't know
My flow, detrimental to your health
Usually roll for self, I have son ridin shotgun
My mind's my nine, my pen's my Mac-10
My target, all you wack niggas who started rappin
Junior M.A.F.I.A. steelo, niggas know the half
Caviar for breakfast, champagne bubble baths
Runnin up in pretty bitches constantly
The Smalls bitch, who the fuck it was supposed to be?

I used to pack Macs in Cadillacs
Now I pimp gats in the Ac's, watch my niggas backs
Nines in the stores, Glocks in the bags
Maxin mini-markets, gettin money with the Arabs
No question, confession, yes it's the lyrical
Bitches squeeze your tits, niggas grab your genitals
Proteins and minerals, excluse subliminals
Big Momma shoots the game to all you Willies and criminals
I kick the rilli with my peeps all day
325's roll by with the windows down halfway
D-K-N-Y, oh my, I'm jiggy
It's all about the Smalls and my fuckin nigga Biggie
Bitches love the way I bust a rhyme
Cause they all in line screamin one more time
Niggas, grab your dicks if you love hip-hop
Bitches rub-a-dub in the back of the club, straight up

Marshawn reportedly touts this as a call for alternatives to gang violence. Apparently he's counting on the public not actually understanding what the lyrics say, seeing the album cover or knowing the history of the artists.

I can't verify that he's a Crip. I'm just saying if it looks like a spade, sounds like a spade, acts like a spade, it's either a spade or it might as well be a spade because he stands for pretty much everything a spade represents. Marshawn could even be more dangerous. I'm pretty sure I'd rather not have my kids getting gifts from him or bumping into him in the hood. There's a reasonable chance those bennies just might have strings attached down the road.

[pbmax]

Thirty-Seven votes. That's not everybody.

No bragging or I-told-you-so without a vote.

[denverYooper]

Man, those lyrics bring back some of the good old days growing up in the 9-0-6.