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  • Originally posted by Pugger View Post
    And who's to say it hasn't?
    We'll see this season.
    Last edited by woodbuck27; 02-05-2015, 04:53 PM.
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    • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
      I get what you are saying, but at that point we were up 12 and the only points Seattle had mustered were on a trick play. Therefore it is inaccurate to say we needed to jump over the wall to win. The clock and the scoreboard were our friend. In hindsight a first down would have been great, however incompletions and especially a turnover were much worse outcomes than us running for no gain.
      Seattle was moving the ball in the second half, just not scoring:
      With 10:53 to go in the 3rd quarter, Seattle had a 6 minute drive, moving the ball from their own 22 yard line to the Packers' 19. Moreover, Wilson and Lynch were beginning to come to life (Wilson had a 29 yard completion to Baldwin, and Lynch had solid runs of 11 and 12 yards.

      In the 4th quarter, in the Seattle series just before Burnett's interception, Seattle moved the ball from their own 13 yard line to the 50 yard line, with Lynch having two more solid runs of 13 and 11 yards.
      The conversation starts here if you're interested in the details.

      You say the clock was our friend. I don't understand how that can be if you don't run the clock down. The only way you run it down is to get a first down. And I don't understand how you get a first down with one hand tied behind your back, namely half your offense...your passing game.
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • Based on the "4th Quarter Comeback" game analysis for a Rodgers-led offense, here are the numbers I've come up with:

        1. Total opportunities to tie or go ahead:

        2008: 8
        2009: 6
        2010: 5
        2011: 1
        2012: 7
        2013: 4
        2014: 4
        Total: 35

        2. Wins:

        2008: 0/8
        2009: 2/6
        2010: 1/5
        2011: 1/1
        2012: 3/7
        2013: 1/4
        2014: 2/4
        Total: 10/35

        3. Of losses, times tied with a chance to add:

        2008: 2/8
        2009: 1/6
        2010: 2/5
        2011: 0/1
        2012: 0/7
        2013: 0/4
        2014: 0/4
        Total: 5/35

        4. Of losses, times lead taken, lead given up by defense, but still time to win:

        2008: 2/8
        2009: 0/6
        2010: 0/5
        2011: 0/1
        2012: 1/7
        2013: 1/4
        2014: 0/4
        Total: 4/35

        5. Of losses, times lead or tie achieved, but defense gave up lead/tie with no chance to come back:

        2008: 0/8
        2009: 1/6
        2010: 2/5
        2011: 0/1
        2012: 2/7
        2013: 1/4
        2014: 1/4
        Total: 7/35

        6. Times unsuccessful in achieving tie or go-ahead score:

        2008: 4/8 (2 missed FGs)
        2009: 2/6
        2010: 0/5
        2011: 0/1
        2012: 1/7
        2013: 1/4
        2014: 1/4
        Total: 9/35

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        • So in conclusion, the Rodgers-led Packers are 10-25 in close (one score) games in which they were behind in the 4th quarter.

          Of the 25 losses, 7 are truly and completely the defense's fault.
          Therefore, of the 25 losses, the Packers had a reasonable chance to win in 18 of them.

          So I'd say that Rodgers' adjusted record in close games is 10-18. This is definitely something I'd like to see him improve.

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          • Originally posted by th87 View Post
            So in conclusion, the Rodgers-led Packers are 10-25 in close (one score) games in which they were behind in the 4th quarter.

            Of the 25 losses, 7 are truly and completely the defense's fault.
            Therefore, of the 25 losses, the Packers had a reasonable chance to win in 18 of them.

            So I'd say that Rodgers' adjusted record in close games is 10-18. This is definitely something I'd like to see him improve.
            Outstanding effort and analysis here th87:

            Repped !
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            • Comment woodbuck27:

              Aaron Rodgers Post NFCC game Presser.

              I'm not agreeing that Aaron Rodgers was 'bitching' in this video.

              He was obviously disappointed as he and the Green Bay Packers expected to win that game.
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              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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              • Originally posted by th87 View Post
                So in conclusion, the Rodgers-led Packers are 10-25 in close (one score) games in which they were behind in the 4th quarter.

                Of the 25 losses, 7 are truly and completely the defense's fault.
                Therefore, of the 25 losses, the Packers had a reasonable chance to win in 18 of them.

                So I'd say that Rodgers' adjusted record in close games is 10-18. This is definitely something I'd like to see him improve.
                OK, now do Brady
                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                  OK, now do Brady
                  Take it to the Garbage Can.

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                  • Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
                    Outstanding effort and analysis here th87:

                    Repped !
                    Thanks Woody!

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                    • Originally posted by th87 View Post
                      So in conclusion, the Rodgers-led Packers are 10-25 in close (one score) games in which they were behind in the 4th quarter.

                      Of the 25 losses, 7 are truly and completely the defense's fault.
                      Therefore, of the 25 losses, the Packers had a reasonable chance to win in 18 of them.

                      So I'd say that Rodgers' adjusted record in close games is 10-18. This is definitely something I'd like to see him improve.
                      Fire Rodgers!!!!!

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                      • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        OK, now do Brady
                        Then do Manning.

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                        • Originally posted by th87 View Post
                          So in conclusion, the Rodgers-led Packers are 10-25 in close (one score) games in which they were behind in the 4th quarter.

                          Of the 25 losses, 7 are truly and completely the defense's fault.
                          Therefore, of the 25 losses, the Packers had a reasonable chance to win in 18 of them.

                          So I'd say that Rodgers' adjusted record in close games is 10-18. This is definitely something I'd like to see him improve.
                          So we know that Rodgers is 76-38 as a starter. So in non-close games we are 66-20. That should really point to how good our offense has been over the last 7 years with ARod at the helm.

                          I already see where your stats are wrong. ARod did lead GB back to a tie in the SEA game so he was 3 of 4 this year. So that makes him 11-17? Who knows? How do you grade that one out? Ugh, I don't want to think about that game any more.
                          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                          -Tim Harmston

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                          • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                            So we know that Rodgers is 76-38 as a starter. So in non-close games we are 66-20. That should really point to how good our offense has been over the last 7 years with ARod at the helm.

                            I already see where your stats are wrong. ARod did lead GB back to a tie in the SEA game so he was 3 of 4 this year. So that makes him 11-17? Who knows? How do you grade that one out? Ugh, I don't want to think about that game any more.
                            That would fall under category 5:

                            5. Of losses, times lead or tie achieved, but defense gave up lead/tie with no chance to come back:

                            Losses like this were removed to arrive at the adjustment.

                            Not wrong.
                            Last edited by th87; 02-06-2015, 04:26 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                              So we know that Rodgers is 76-38 as a starter. So in non-close games we are 66-20. That should really point to how good our offense has been over the last 7 years with ARod at the helm.
                              This is true, but we are not discussing this.

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                              • Originally posted by th87 View Post
                                This is true, but we are not discussing this.

                                Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                                So many reasons why that game was f'cked up on so many levels.
                                But not many seem to be focusing on Aaron Rodgers
                                Does he get a free pass due to the calf ?
                                If you want to be that way about it, I think this is what this thread is really about.

                                I think thread drift is allowed.
                                But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                                -Tim Harmston

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