Big Mac

[Bossman641]

I can't fault MM for the game plan. For 55 minutes we weren't just beating Seattle, we were beating them up. It took a miracle for Seattle to win. If that game goes like 99% of games go in the last 5 minutes, MM and Capers would be getting accolades for their hard-nosed defense and playing smart and taking the points in a low-scoring game.

[Patler]

BTW, I agree with McGinn's comment here: Hawk's decision to let receiver run free was inexcusable. It wasn't a tough choice, it was easy decision and he choked.

I disagree 100%. If Hawk went with the receiver, he was conceding a 1st down to Ryan who would have kept running. No one was anywhere close. I'll take my chances with a punter being pressured while trying to throw to a tackle. That, and Hayward was only a stride or two from being there in time.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I can't fault MM for the game plan. For 55 minutes we weren't just beating Seattle, we were beating them up. It took a miracle for Seattle to win. If that game goes like 99% of games go in the last 5 minutes, MM and Capers would be getting accolades for their hard-nosed defense and playing smart and taking the points in a low-scoring game.

This all very true. But still was a pucker job, win lose or draw.

[Patler]

To me the real question is, what on earth was Slocum thinking when he choose to drop only one defender on that play? There is no reason to try to block a FG at that point. Play it safe, drop four guys and make them take the three or stuff their shit.

Yup, its a long way to 17 counting by threes. A lot shorter counting by sevens.

[Fritz]

Agreed. I was screaming for them to look out for the fake.

Why the hell wouldn't you drop a few defenders and just give them the three?

[vince]

Yes, that would be assinine.

My point is they should have been playing for TD the whole drive.

What brings you to the conclusion they weren't?

[Harlan Huckleby]

What brings you to the conclusion they weren't?

They let time tick down, kept souvenir timeouts into tunnel

[mraynrand]

They let time tick down, kept souvenir timeouts into tunnel

ya, they had 1st and ten, 35 yard line, 35 seconds, three time outs. I woulda run Starks and/or Lacy twice. Bet one of them would have busted one and then you have 1-3 tries for the end zone.

[Freak Out]

Ok....burn this house down. Can we just delete all these threads and start over?

[vince]

They let time tick down, kept souvenir timeouts into tunnel

What? They still had time to run more plays. It was more downs they didn't have. Timeouts don't get you that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

What? They still had time to run more plays. It was more downs they didn't have. Timeouts don't get you that.

Not calling timeouts on drive means you are not even trying to play for endzone, you are satisfied to play for 3.

We can't replay game, it would have been totally different series with timeouts called and aggressive hurry-up. The point is we saw one more anal puckering.

[Bossman641]

Not calling timeouts on drive means you are not even trying to play for endzone, you are satisfied to play for 3.

We can't replay game, it would have been totally different series with timeouts called and aggressive hurry-up. The point is we saw one more anal puckering.

1st and 10 at GB 22 (1:19) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to J.Nelson to GB 37 for 15 yards (B.Maxwell).
1st and 10 at GB 37 (1:00) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short middle to R.Cobb to SEA 48 for 15 yards (E.Thomas).
1st and 10 at SEA 48 (:43) (No Huddle, Shotgun) A.Rodgers scrambles right end ran ob at SEA 36 for 12 yards.
1st and 10 at SEA 36 (:35) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to E.Lacy.
2nd and 10 at SEA 36 (:30) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass incomplete short right to R.Rodgers.
3rd and 10 at SEA 36 (:26) (Shotgun) A.Rodgers pass short left to J.Nelson to SEA 30 for 6 yards (R.Sherman) [L.Cohen].
Timeout #1 by GB at 00:19.
4th and 4 at SEA 30 (:19) M.Crosby 48 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-B.Goode, Holder-T.Masthay.

The only play I could see calling a timeout after was after the completion to Cobb, but I also understand the thought process behind keeping things rolling after back to back 15 yard completions. The killer was the incomplete pass to Lacy. A healthy Rodgers probably picks up 30 yards scrambling on those back to back plays and we would have been at the 20 with 3 TO and 30 seconds left.

[Pugger]

I can't really blame Mac for taking the points down by goal line. Early in game. That's a very defensible call, even if I would have gone for it. But in context of whole game of risk avoidance, it sticks out.

I didn't have a problem with taking the sure points early in the game. My biggest beef was not going after Richard Sherman after he injured his arm.

[Pugger]

I can't fault MM for the game plan. For 55 minutes we weren't just beating Seattle, we were beating them up. It took a miracle for Seattle to win. If that game goes like 99% of games go in the last 5 minutes, MM and Capers would be getting accolades for their hard-nosed defense and playing smart and taking the points in a low-scoring game.

I'm with ya there. Not many gave us a chance in hell of going in there and competing let alone have a good chance to win. Even tho things went south at the end we now know we can go in there and take it to arguably the best team in the league in that madhouse. If we can keep most of our productive veterans and plug a couple of holes 2015 should be a fun season. What the hell good is it for us to keep harping on that game and keep poking at an open wound? Nothing will change what happened. We gotta hope they learn from this mess and have it never happen again.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The only play I could see calling a timeout after was after the completion to Cobb, but I also understand the thought process behind keeping things rolling after back to back 15 yard completions. The killer was the incomplete pass to Lacy. A healthy Rodgers probably picks up 30 yards scrambling on those back to back plays and we would have been at the 20 with 3 TO and 30 seconds left.

The Cobb completion should have been the first timeout taken. And from there, who knows how gamne plays out in our counter factual world. For sure you lost 20 seconds right there, and you aren't playing to end game with TD.

You make a very good case for McCarthy's conservative game management here. A good case can be made for all 40 of his conservative moves. You look at the whole body, and you see a play-scared tone, and the players picked up on that.

(Another bad moment, rushing 2 on Seattle's 3rd and 19 play following Matthews getting piled on. Why go into prevent when D is working all day?)