JS ARTICLE "WITH SB IN SIGHT< RODGERS DOES NOT DELIVER

[Patler]

Once you are in FG territory, a TO is a game reversal, game ending error.

Prior to being in FG territory, its game ending only.

A difference without a distinction. Either way you lose. Besides, having 1st and 10 at the 36 likely was not yet in FG territory. That would have been a 54 yard attempt, perhaps not reachable in the rain and swirling winds at Seattle.

[MadtownPacker]

Your passion for Aaron Rodgers is noted. If your so confident why are you cursing?

Don't start this bullshit Woody. Talk, fight, whatever the fuck you want but don't for one second think you run shit here in any way, shape, or form. Pug can cuss if she wants. Are we clear?

[MadtownPacker]

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Upon further review, Bob McGinn is a cock. If he were posting on Packerrats, KY would be screaming to have Madtown ban him for being a troll. Bob probably has some "Ted trapped in the closet" poetry somewhere in the back of his desk.

Same applies to you. If you don't like something that was done here then go to the top right of your screen and click where it says "log off" and don't bother coming to this place since such a huge injustice occurred. Whatever is done and over. This site is not here for you to voice your opinion about how shit is dealt with here. Back the fuck off KYPack. He is a good member of this place and you aren't going to dog him. Yes? No?? Let me know.

[pbmax]

A difference without a distinction. Either way you lose. Besides, having 1st and 10 at the 36 likely was not yet in FG territory. That would have been a 54 yard attempt, perhaps not reachable in the rain and swirling winds at Seattle.

Not at all. Virtually any risk is worth taking to get in FG range. To fail to get there is a loss. A turnover is loss. The only differential is making enough yardage to get a FG.

Once there, then incomplete or failed runs may ruin your chance to win, but only a turnover prevents you from an attempt to tie and play on. I don't know what Crosby's range was that day, but at the 36 its better odds than in the other half of the field.

[Patler]

Not at all. Virtually any risk is worth taking to get in FG range. To fail to get there is a loss. A turnover is loss. The only differential is making enough yardage to get a FG.

Once there, then incomplete or failed runs may ruin your chance to win, but only a turnover prevents you from an attempt to tie and play on. I don't know what Crosby's range was that day, but at the 36 its better odds than in the other half of the field.

So, play to tie in bad whether in perhaps the most difficult environment in the league, just because you are at the 36 rather than the 40 or 42? Sorry, I don't buy that at all. Especially on the road, play to win and settle for the tie if you must.

[mraynrand]

USame applies to you. If you don't like something that was done here then go to the top right of your screen and click where it says "log off" and don't bother coming to this place since such a huge injustice occurred. Whatever is done and over. This site is not here for you to voice your opinion about how shit is dealt with here. Back the fuck off KYPack. He is a good member of this place and you aren't going to dog him. Yes? No?? Let me know.

dog eat dog, you know I speak the truth. But, as I've said before, go ahead and ban me whenever you please. You'll be doing me a favor. But for Crissakes, make it permanent.

[woodbuck27]

Don't start this bullshit Woody. Talk, fight, whatever the fuck you want but don't for one second think you run shit here in any way, shape, or form. Pug can cuss if she wants. Are we clear?

I don't care if Pugger curses Mad.

I'm not at all sure what you mean by 'run shit here'?

Did I really break some rule here with that post to Pugger? If so what rule was that?

That was merely a joke (a little dig) nothing more.

[mraynrand]

Don't start this bullshit Woody. Talk, fight, whatever the fuck you want but don't for one second think you run shit here in any way, shape, or form. Pug can cuss if she wants. Are we clear?

seemed like a reasonable question to me; he wasn't telling her not to cuss.

[wist43]

I still put almost all of the blame on the coaching staff... Rodgers played fine IMO. Seattle is a tough defense, bullets are flying - what killed us was idiotic decisions from the sideline and being choked with caution - that also eminated from the sidelines.

Both MM and dunderdummy went completely stupid in the final 5 minutes, and flubbed the game away. Unfortunately, I'm sure they've learned nothing, and will do the exact same things next time we are in that situation - if we are lucky enough to ever get back to that situation again with this regime.

They largely wasted Favre's career, and they are largely wasting Rodgers' career - it is what it is. We got two SB's out of 2 HOF QB's... we should have had more.

[mraynrand]

They largely wasted Favre's career.

Who are you talking about? McCarthy saved Favre's sinking career, as did TT. Capers never coached with Favre.

Favre was just as responsible as Packer leadership for 'wasting' his career (of course I would never consider his career wasted, since I don't based my evaluation on SB wins alone, as it seems many other do). What do they say - a leopard never changes it's spots - and neither did Favre, even with MN leadership.

But I agree, the coaches, the entire team did a face plant after the Burnett INT.

[woodbuck27]

I still put almost all of the blame on the coaching staff....

If any blame is to be laid it most deservedly should go right there.

Mike McCarthy and Dom Capers screwed up terribly in Seattle.

Dom Capers exists as the Packers DC because Mike McCarthy admires him.

Shawn Slocum exists because Mike McCarthy accepts comparative poor performance on ST's.

Going forward it's Mike McCarthy's responsibility to end the nonsense.

[pbmax]

So, play to tie in bad whether in perhaps the most difficult environment in the league, just because you are at the 36 rather than the 40 or 42? Sorry, I don't buy that at all. Especially on the road, play to win and settle for the tie if you must.

This is where it gets hard to parse. How much of the entire game's playcalling was an effort to protect that calf? His one big run cost him as he was even more immobile after it. In Dallas in the second half, moving more seemed to limber up his leg. In Seattle, it seemed to get worse from a movement standpoint.

The 35 is the most commonly cited yard marker for FG range, not including game and kicker conditions. So I don't think changing the plan at the 36 is far fetched at all. They have done it before immediately after entering scoring range.

[Patler]

The 35 is the most commonly cited yard marker for FG range, not including game and kicker conditions. So I don't think changing the plan at the 36 is far fetched at all. They have done it before immediately after entering scoring range.

Game decisions absolutely have to take into consideration the existing conditions. To ignore them is idiotic. I believe most of the coaches use the pregame opinion of the kickers and ST coaches to determine FG range for that day, and even modify it as conditions change. The 35 is for broadcasters and fans, not rule of thumb for coaches.

[Patler]

This is where it gets hard to parse. How much of the entire game's playcalling was an effort to protect that calf? His one big run cost him as he was even more immobile after it. In Dallas in the second half, moving more seemed to limber up his leg. In Seattle, it seemed to get worse from a movement standpoint.

When trailing with less than two minutes left, there is nothing to protect. At that point, Rodgers himself needed to throw out caution, and do whatever he was able to, no matter how compromised by injury he was. There is no longer reason to be "smart" with it, as MM and his players are prone to say.

[mraynrand]

When trailing with less than two minutes left, there is nothing to protect. At that point, Rodgers himself needed to throw out caution, and do whatever he was able to, no matter how compromised by injury he was. There is no longer reason to be "smart" with it, as MM and his players are prone to say.

How do you know he didn't?