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  • #31
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Not at all. But the reaction to each side exercising their contractual rights is asymmetric.
    Probably because one circumstance - quitting after making "gobs of cash" is so rare as to be challenging to even find a second example in the same sport. And do the players have a contractual right to quit? Did Larry give two week's notice?
    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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    • #32
      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
      ? A lot of football players have no other skills I should think. Either play football, or what, fall back on your degree in electrical engineering? Or go work in the coal mine more likely.
      Possibly. But football players have a decent shot of having had a very good payday. Gives you a head start on the second career.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Possibly. But football players have a decent shot of having had a very good payday. Gives you a head start on the second career.
        I'm guessing you didn't see all those restaurants close their doors.
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • #34
          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          Probably because one circumstance - quitting after making "gobs of cash" is so rare as to be challenging to even find a second example in the same sport. And do the players have a contractual right to quit? Did Larry give two week's notice?
          The NFL seems to think so. Unsure about Larry.

          Though Larry and his 5 year guaranteed contract is an interesting phenomenon. Teams must realize such revenue from the stars that they would actually like to sign up for life, that they have agreed to the guaranteed language or minimum spending and still hand out five year deals to lesser known players.

          I'm not sure if its like being the lead singer in a mediocre band or the drummer in a great one.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            I'm guessing you didn't see all those restaurants close their doors.
            Reminds me I have never been to Brett's Steakhouse.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Reminds me I have never been to Brett's Steakhouse.
              Better eats are available at The Broke Spoke.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #37
                Borland made a little over a million with his bonus and one year's salary. If the goal is to live a decent normal life, he's set - who among us couldn't do well with a million head start. I would think, though, there are enough safeguards and protections that playing at least a few more years and making maybe double digit millions would have been worth the risk for somebody with that kind of God-given talent.

                I've always said, I will never feel sorry for an athlete making that kind of money playing a sport we all would love playing for a tiny fraction as much. If that applies to somebody suffering the effects of head injury, I guess it also applies to somebody erring on the side of caution to prevent it. I do NOT see this as the start of any significant trend. The minimal risk and HUGE reward for playing will be just too overwhelming for most people.
                What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                • #38


                  He sustained a head injury in pre-season that wasn't severe enough to require treatment. By Week 4, he had written his parents that it might be a one year career.

                  His father sounds like their were always concerns about football in the family. None of his sons played until high school.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
                    If/When they are able to specifically identify the effects of micro concussions and the major dingers - and some connection of history/personal effect, then a player can make an informed decision.

                    I.e. - farmers and coal miners know the risks and life expediencies but still decide to pursue that career for a host of reasons.

                    One of my best friends was a lineman at UW - had spinal stenosis after an awkward hit and gave up football immediately (he was in line for starter as Junior and was as good bet as anyone to make an NFL team). He weighed that risk and made a decision.

                    Not much different than many others for that condition but now seemingly becoming more common for pro athletes and concussion risks...
                    I like this take. The overall pool of available bodies will get smaller, but plenty of freakishly gifted individuals will still decide to leverage those gifts to make a lot of money in a relatively short amount of time.

                    I also feel like this will drive some innovation in protective gear. This is America--when a lawsuit opens a niche, technology fills it.
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #40
                      From an SI article, similar to the initial article posted at the top the thread.

                      "Borland earned a bachelor's degree in history from Wisconsin and says he'll probably go back to study sports management. In truth, his sense of history led him to a decision that he may never regret -- and other NFL players could use this type of management."

                      I'm not exactly sure if Sports Management means becoming a player agent, but that would be a somewhat odd choice of second career, so soon after leaving the game for safety reasons. If he were to become a player agent, would he have more credibility or less? Obviously you don't have to have played ball to be an agent or a coach, but perhaps you understand things better. If he does decide to become a player agent, it's sort of a weird place to be. It would almost be like saying, "safety concerns caused met to quit playing, but let me make a percentage off of your decision to play." I know he's doing what's best for him, but I'm not sure how you be involved like that given your reasons for leaving the game.
                      "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                        I like this take. The overall pool of available bodies will get smaller, but plenty of freakishly gifted individuals will still decide to leverage those gifts to make a lot of money in a relatively short amount of time.

                        I also feel like this will drive some innovation in protective gear. This is America--when a lawsuit opens a niche, technology fills it.
                        They also could get creative, change the rules around the LOS and create some space.

                        Roger could actually develop a relationship with coaches and get them to stop teaching players to tackle (and force fumbles) with their heads.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by red View Post
                          where the hell is bretsky? this seems like the perfect thing to shove in his face


                          Funny, that's the first thing that I thought of when I heard the story this morning.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
                            From an SI article, similar to the initial article posted at the top the thread.

                            "Borland earned a bachelor's degree in history from Wisconsin and says he'll probably go back to study sports management. In truth, his sense of history led him to a decision that he may never regret -- and other NFL players could use this type of management."

                            I'm not exactly sure if Sports Management means becoming a player agent, but that would be a somewhat odd choice of second career, so soon after leaving the game for safety reasons. If he were to become a player agent, would he have more credibility or less? Obviously you don't have to have played ball to be an agent or a coach, but perhaps you understand things better. If he does decide to become a player agent, it's sort of a weird place to be. It would almost be like saying, "safety concerns caused met to quit playing, but let me make a percentage off of your decision to play." I know he's doing what's best for him, but I'm not sure how you be involved like that given your reasons for leaving the game.
                            He could organize the shuffleboard tourney aboard the Pacific Princess.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              Reminds me I have never been to Brett's Steakhouse.
                              tailgated several times but never stepped inside.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by red View Post
                                where the hell is bretsky? this seems like the perfect thing to shove in his face
                                Piss off red...lol.....
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