49ers Borland Retires

[esoxx]

What are these cold hard facts you speak of?

When one of the best rookies in the league last year plays one season and then quits saying he doesn't want to lose 10-15 years off his lifespan, that is hysteria. What proof do you have it shotens lifespans to this degree?

Hell, how the hell did Chuck Bednarik make it to the ripe age of 89 playing as long as he did?

Hysteria.

[Rastak]

What are these cold hard facts you speak of?

When one of the best rookies in the league last year plays one season and then quits saying he doesn't want to lose 10-15 years off his lifespan, that is hysteria. What proof do you have it shotens lifespans to this degree?

Hell, how the hell did Chuck Bednarik make it to the ripe age of 89 playing as long as he did?

Hysteria.

Dude, I'm not going to run down every story but this ain't fucking cool....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24732026/report-76-of-79-nfl-player-brains-studied-show-signs-of-cte

Read it or ignore it if you will....

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201102/jeanne-marie-laskas-nfl-concussions-fred-mcneill

I'm sure the was coincidental.

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/dave-duerson-the-ferocious-life-and-tragic-death-of-a-super-bowl-star-20121002

It goes on and on. How can you call the complete destruction of people's lives hysteria? They brought it on themselves in my opinion but it's real and serious.

[pbmax]

What are these cold hard facts you speak of?

When one of the best rookies in the league last year plays one season and then quits saying he doesn't want to lose 10-15 years off his lifespan, that is hysteria. What proof do you have it shotens lifespans to this degree?

Hell, how the hell did Chuck Bednarik make it to the ripe age of 89 playing as long as he did?

Hysteria.

Players in years gone by had terrible helmets. As a result, they didn't use their heads to tackle. They just clotheslined your neck.

Occasionally they broke some capillaries that way and you had a hickey for a while.

[Rastak]

I chatted with an Australian dude in the 90's who asked me the same thing. "If they didn't wear so much armour and played it like Rugby wouldn't there be fewer serious injuries?"

[pbmax]

I chatted with an Australian dude in the 90's who asked me the same thing. "If they didn't wear so much armour and played it like Rugby wouldn't there be fewer serious injuries?"

Yep. Law of unintended consequences. They designed today's helmets to stop skull fractures and lacerations. They unintentionally made a fumble generator and Chuck Cecil.

[Rastak]

Yep. Law of unintended consequences. They designed today's helmets to stop skull fractures and lacerations. They unintentionally made a fumble generator and Chuck Cecil.

And apparently brain dead people in numbers far larger than the general public. I love the NFL and do not want to see it dismantled.....but damn, this ain't cool.

[esoxx]

Dude, I'm not going to run down every story but this ain't fucking cool....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24732026/report-76-of-79-nfl-player-brains-studied-show-signs-of-cte

Read it or ignore it if you will....

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/big-issues/201102/jeanne-marie-laskas-nfl-concussions-fred-mcneill

I'm sure the was coincidental.

http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/dave-duerson-the-ferocious-life-and-tragic-death-of-a-super-bowl-star-20121002

It goes on and on. How can you call the complete destruction of people's lives hysteria? They brought it on themselves in my opinion but it's real and serious.

So if it's confirmed as fact that football causes the complete destruction of people's lives (no hyteria there), then why is anyone still playing this sport?

Is Chris Borland just smarter than everyone else?

Maybe the better question is, if you think football causes complete destruction of people's lives then why do you continue to watch and maybe attend games in person? That seems a bit hypocritical.

[pbmax]

And apparently brain dead people in numbers far larger than the general public. I love the NFL and do not want to see it dismantled.....but damn, this ain't cool.

Coaching and rules changes. Plus a Commissioner who isn't governing via Press Release. Eminently doable. But it will wait until there is some kinda catastrophe, the PR or real variety.

[Rastak]

So if it's confirmed as fact that football causes the complete destruction of people's lives (no hyteria there), then why is anyone still playing this sport?

Is Chris Borland just smarter than everyone else?

Maybe the better question is, if you think football causes complete destruction of people's lives then why do you continue to watch and maybe attend games in person? That seems a bit hypocritical.

He and Robert Smith and Jim Brown might be smarter than the average cat.

Good question on why I watch.....same reason you do and the dudes back in Rome watched people hacked to death. It ain't us being fucked over...we're watching.


Look Essox, I love football but it seems like this shit is for real. That's all I'm saying.

[pbmax]

Matt Maiocco
@MaioccoCSN

Ex-49ers LB Chris Borland makes it easy on his old team, as he voluntarily gives back 3/4 of his signing bonus.

http://origin.csnbayarea.com/49ers/borland-give-back-portion-signing-bonus

[Patler]

Matt Maiocco
@MaioccoCSN

Ex-49ers LB Chris Borland makes it easy on his old team, as he voluntarily gives back 3/4 of his signing bonus.
http://origin.csnbayarea.com/49ers/b...-signing-bonus

I am impressed. I respect that a whole bunch!

[pbmax]

Now the 49ers should insist he keep it.

[red]

Now the 49ers should insist he keep it.

yup, its not like nfl teams are hurting for money

and you could say he easily outplayed his contract last year

[smuggler]

Absolutely, red. The real harm in his retiring is the opportunity cost of the draft pick, which is sunk, baby, sunk. The signing bonus should be his to keep. It's an incentive to sign, which he did. There are forces that compel him to serve out the contract, but he retired anyway.

[red]

totally agree about a signing bonus being incentive to sign, that should be his no matter what, just like it would be his if he was cut last year

teams can avoid this by giving roster bonuses instead of signing bonuses, but then they wouldn't be able to stretch the cap hit out over 5 years