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  • #16
    I would add Damarious Randall to the misses list... it's official - terrible pick.
    wist

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    • #17
      Originally posted by wist43 View Post
      I would add Damarious Randall to the misses list... it's official - terrible pick.
      Well, that's that. Better luck in Round 2, TT.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wist43 View Post
        I would add Damarious Randall to the misses list... it's official - terrible pick.
        LOL Unsound!
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • #19
          Originally posted by wist43 View Post
          I would add Damarious Randall to the misses list... it's official - terrible pick.
          Disagree. I didn't pay attention to Randall because I didn't pay attention to Safeties. However, he's in essence a cover CB, which is what we lacked. So I'm willing to trust TT on this.

          The only thing I hate about the selection is that we missed out on the best ILB available, IMO. Now the options for ILB are Kendricks/McKinney/Perryman, for whom we'll likely have to trade up, or Dawson who might slide to our 2nd rnd pick.

          Then again, TT might cross us up again and go with a lower rnd ILB and take a WR or DL guy with our 2nd.
          One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
          John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wist43 View Post
            I would add Damarious Randall to the misses list... it's official - terrible pick.

            The Packers really need to hire you. You already know he's going to be terrible. Wow. You ought to be an NFL GM.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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            • #21
              Wist and (to a lesser extent?) red are so certain that he'll suck that I feel much better about the pick.

              Thanks for your service. guys!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                The Packers really need to hire you. You already know he's going to be terrible. Wow. You ought to be an NFL GM.
                No shit, huh, lol...

                He's a midget, misses tons of tackles, takes bad angles...

                By TT's way of evaluating though - those things mean nothing. All TT cares about is that he can run (which he can), and he can play the ball in the air (which he can).

                So, we're going to be stuck with watching this midget bounce off of Alshon Jeffrey, Calvin Johnson, and Kevin White - it is what it is.

                I saw very little on tape that would warrant a 1st round pick - more like a 5th rounder. He's 185 lbs soaking wet...
                wist

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                  So, we're going to be stuck with watching this midget bounce off of Alshon Jeffrey, Calvin Johnson, and Kevin White
                  That's a penalty!
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                    Wist and (to a lesser extent?) red are so certain that he'll suck that I feel much better about the pick.

                    Thanks for your service. guys!
                    he might turn into something decent in a couple years or 3, but our team is set up to win now with just a couple added pieces

                    almost everything you read on the guys says its gonna take time with him, but he should be able to set in on nickle and dime situations early and contribute on special teams

                    thats not what you want out of a first rounder IMO, that sounds more like a later round pick

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by wist43 View Post

                      I saw very little on tape that would warrant a 1st round pick - more like a 5th rounder. He's 185 lbs soaking wet...
                      And Waynes is one inch taller and 1 pound heavier. So why did he go earlier? Because he can run, faster than Randall. And some of his angles look like crap on tape - when you're trying to find flaws. Try and get your story straight, guy. You always fall into the same trap - you have such vested interests in proving your negative viewpoints that you ignore straight up facts and/or make absurd, contradictory arguments.

                      By the way, the league doesn't agree with you. No one is drafting 'thumper' corners because, guess what, the rules have changed. You miss that one maybe?
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by red View Post
                        he might turn into something decent in a couple years or 3, but our team is set up to win now with just a couple added pieces

                        almost everything you read on the guys says its gonna take time with him, but he should be able to set in on nickle and dime situations early and contribute on special teams

                        thats not what you want out of a first rounder IMO, that sounds more like a later round pick
                        By all accounts Sam Shields was a total moron coming in his first year. How'd that turn out? Ya think maybe the Packer organization has some confidence in their ability to get raw guys prepared and on the field? That's kinda their modus operandi, isn't it? Not a lot of old fellas on the Packers.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by wist43 View Post

                          I saw very little on tape that would warrant a 1st round pick - more like a 5th rounder. He's 185 lbs soaking wet...
                          I couldn't find much video on the web. Do you gave links to the video you watched?
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            he might turn into something decent in a couple years or 3, but our team is set up to win now with just a couple added pieces

                            almost everything you read on the guys says its gonna take time with him, but he should be able to set in on nickle and dime situations early and contribute on special teams

                            thats not what you want out of a first rounder IMO, that sounds more like a later round pick
                            I haven't read that at all. The Packers needed a cover guy for the dime, general depth and an influx of talent. This is that guy.

                            He won't start, Hayward and Shields will. He needs to play nickel and dime. Outside of maybe Waynes, I don't think there was a CB getting drafted this year that is going to unseat Hayward.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #29
                              I'm not saying he'll "suck"... I just don't like smurf-like CB's that can't tackle. My expectation is that he'll primarily be our nickelback - which it would seem with this pick, Dom intends to go back to being our base.

                              From what I could see - he does some things well, and other things not so well - on top of the fact that he's a midget. He has a narrow frame - which means he won't be able to sustain the "fake weight" he put on for the combine.

                              I read a couple of scouting reports that said they thought he had added "fake weight" for the combine. Another criticism is that he is an "ankle biter" tackler, i.e. he dives at guys feet b/c he's so slight of frame that's his best chance of getting the guy on the ground - no way could he play safety at the NFL level - he's simply too small.

                              Don't see how he can compete with NFL WR's on the outside - best case scenario is that he'll be a competent nickelback.
                              wist

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                              • #30
                                Trust the Beard!

                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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