Damarious Randall, 2015 First Round Pick

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cad!

I hate that Yooper has a busier day job now.

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we could go bump threads that support TT's use of the first and threads that don't.

Justine Harrell and Sherry come to mind.

Without a bump I can tell you that Justin Harrell the poster was very unsure about Derek Sherrod the player.

[call_me_ishmael]

Harvey, he's exactly what I said he was, and he's exactly what he was in college. A guy with good ball skills, and tackles like a girl. I don't like him as a football player - he's far too soft. He's a terrible tackler. I thought Darby was a much better player - and he proved to be a better player with the Bills.

You guys like your soft players that can cover; and you value interceptions over stopping the run and forcing punts. Luckily for you, TT prefers to play soft-ball too - and we habitually have an average to poor defense as a result. I don't get it, but TT will never change, and you guys will never like physical football players. It is what it is.

"He's far too soft, he's a terrible tackler, and he's a perennial pro bowler!"

[HarveyWallbangers]

we could go bump threads that support TT's use of the first and threads that don't.

Justine Harrell and Sherry come to mind.

From my perspective the negative folks write a guy off before he sets foot in camp. See above for an example. See all the consternation in yesterday's draft thread regarding Kenny Clark. The optimistic folks aren't saying a guy is a can't miss. They are saying wait and see. See my quote regarding Randall for an example.

I think he's a corner with the versatility to play safety, and later he will. Kind of like Antrell Rolle. I don't hate or like the pick, but he wasn't a reach. Bob and Kiper had him going in the early 20's. Most had him going in the top 40--Lindy's and their two month old scouting reports notwithstanding. I think if people had been thinking of him as a CB, they'd like him a lot more. To me, he's similar prospect to Eric Rowe.

[George Cumby]

It's so funny. It takes literally years to grade a draft and people rush to judgement the day of the draft.

I'm not complaining, fans reactions is all part of the drama and adds to the entertainment value of the whole deal.

[call_me_ishmael]

Guys I like in R2:

Braxton Miller
Kevin Dodd
Su'a Cravens
Jaylon Smith
Myles Jack

There are more but Braxton Miller and Su'a Cravens are both going to be studs IMO.

[Fritz]

I don't think TT will take any medical chances. Not in round two, anyway.

[woodbuck27]

It's so funny. It takes literally years to grade a draft and people rush to judgement the day of the draft.

I'm not complaining, fans reactions is all part of the drama and adds to the entertainment value of the whole deal.

I'm not complaining either.

[3irty1]

If all you watch is Packers football, he probably seems like the second coming of Rod Woodson... on the other hand, I don't think he can carry Darby's jock. Are you saying Randall was/is as good as Darby??

Randall is a soft player. He is the type of player the Packers prefer... for some reason, given the choice between two players - a tough, hardnosed tackler, and a finesse guy, the Packers will take the finesse guy every time.

The national media have been questioning the Packers toughness for years - and for good reason.

If we were to redraft tomorrow Darby might crack the top 5 but this wasn't about Darby and still isn't.

You're on record in this thread saying Randall was a wasted pick, not worthy of a first round selection, and even took your hyperbole so far as to say he could have been taken in the 5th round. If we were to redraft tomorrow Randall would be well within top 20. He's exceeded expectations for near every fan but for you he's been an all you can eat crow buffet. Its not polite to talk with your mouth full even when doing so with a separate orifice.

[wist43]

If we were to redraft tomorrow Darby might crack the top 5 but this wasn't about Darby and still isn't.

You're on record in this thread saying Randall was a wasted pick, not worthy of a first round selection, and even took your hyperbole so far as to say he could have been taken in the 5th round. If we were to redraft tomorrow Randall would be well within top 20. He's exceeded expectations for near every fan but for you he's been an all you can eat crow buffet. Its not polite to talk with your mouth full even when doing so with a separate orifice.

I don't think he was worth a 1st round pick. Didn't, and don't.

What part of that don't you understand?? I don't like soft players, never will, and would never draft one in the first round - is that clear enough for you??

[George Cumby]

Yes, but no one else sees the 'softness' you describe. You may need to readjust your set.

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Nitschke > Butkus > Darby > soft > Randall > ankle-biter

Just because he isn't an ankle biter doesn't mean he is not soft. Look at that scale!

[3irty1]

I don't think he was worth a 1st round pick. Didn't, and don't.

What part of that don't you understand?? I don't like soft players, never will, and would never draft one in the first round - is that clear enough for you??

Oh no I understand perfectly, and you're certainly entitled to opine as hard as any of us humble know-nothing amateurs. Then there's you:

Can't believe anyone really believes the kid should have gone that high... sounds like someone started a misdirection campaign that this kid was a player, and people began to believe the ruse.

Seriously, just put on the game tape of the guy... he couldn't tackle your grandmother. Soft, softer, and please don't hurt me type of player. The more I watched of the guy, the more I thought I was alone in the Twilight Zone - wondering, am I the only one who is seeing this??

Apparently I am the only one who is seeing it, b/c what I saw of Randall should have him flipping burgers at McDonalds before he belongs on an NFL roster.

I'm sure he'd be All-World in a flag football league - but the NFL aint that.

Doesn't quite match up with the 2015 edition of Damarious "the crow chef" Randall.

https://vine.co/v/iMqAuaB0VuZ

[George Cumby]

^ Anklebiter!

Lol!

More like lumber salesman.

[Bossman641]

Serious question, how many cb's today really bring the wood?
Randall has shown that he's not afraid to get in there abdominal mix it up. He's not a big guy but he's certainly not tramon playing patty cake with receivers.