Official Day 2 (Rounds 2 and 3) of the 2015 NFL Draft Thread

[Freak Out]

if we take an OLB (to play outside LB), in the second, i will shoot myself in the balls

With what?

[mraynrand]

if we take an OLB (to play outside LB), in the second, i will shoot myself in the balls

C'mon, God, I never really ask for much, but please let the Packers select an OLB - to play OLB - in the second round. I promise never to look at Scarlett Johansson again! And neither will Red.

[mraynrand]

It's funny, I've done dozens of mock drafts using different big boards on "On The Clock." I could never draft a decent combination of CB and ILB if I selected the CB first. The problem Ted has is that the ILB pool is not nearly as deep in talent as the CB pool.

I'd pay good money to see TT's big board. Uhh...that doesn't sound quite right....

[pbmax]

PFT is wrong. NFL Draft Tracker has drafting an ILB as either the first or second priority of the Falcons, Giants, Texans, Cardinals and 49ers. None of the four big names are likely to slide to us. Except maybe for Dawson.

OK, Maxie. Let's keep a list and update it. We'll add Draft Tracker to the mocks above for people we are suspicious could snag a ILB.

Giants
Falcons
Vikings
49ers
Bills
Texans
Cardinals

maxie, you make the list of LBs we want to be there at pick 62.

[wist43]

My guess is the next pick will be an OL or WR. Probably on OL.

Think TT thinks we're just fine at ILB, and couldn't care less about drafting one.

[Smidgeon]

GBPG updated their Round 2 mock:

33.Titans - WR Jaelen Strong, Arizona State
34.Bucs - OT T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh
35.Raiders - OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska
36.Jaguars - OT Jake Fisher, Oregon
37.Jets - QB Brett Hundley, UCLA
38.Redskins - OLB Eli Harold, Virginia
39.Bears - DT Eddie Goldman, Florida State
40.Giants - S Landon Collins, Alabama
41.Rams - WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma
42.Falcons - RB Tevin Coleman, Indiana
43.Browns - WR Devin Smith, Ohio State
44.Saints - TE Maxx Williams, Minnesota
45.Vikings - RB Jay Ajayi, Boise State
46.49ers - CB Jalen Collins, LSU
47.Dolphins - ILB Eric Kendricks, UCLA
48.Chargers - DT Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma
49.Chiefs - WR/TE Devin Funchess, Michigan
50.Bills - QB Bryce Petty, Baylor
51. Texans - ILB Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State
52.Eagles - S/CB Eric Rowe, Utah
53.Bengals - DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA
54.Lions - DT Carl Davis, Iowa
55.Cardinals - ILB Denzel Perryman, Miami
56.Steelers - CB P.J. Williams, Florida State
57.Panthers - OT Donovan Smith, Penn State
58.Ravens - CB Ronald Darby, Florida State
59.Broncos - TE Clive Walford, Miami
60.Cowboys - RB Amer Abdullah, Nebraska
61.Colts - DE Preston Smith, Mississippi State
62.Packers - ILB Paul Dawson, TCU
63.Seahawks - WR Sammie Coates, Auburn
64.Patriots - G A.J. Cann, South Carolina

But I do want to take issue with how they started the article:

"Green Bay Packers general manager Ted Thompson went outside the box -- literally and figuratively -- in Thursday's first round of the NFL draft."

How did TT literally go outside the box with the pick of The Randall? Do they literally even know what "literal" means?

[red]

maybe he stepped outside to make the call?

[esoxx]

if we take an OLB (to play outside LB), in the second, i will shoot myself in the balls

No need to be so extreme. Use Bretsky's route of disappointment relief with the ol' can of vasoline.

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?27819-Official-1st-Round-Of-The-2015-NFL-Draft-Thread/page20

[Maxie the Taxi]

pb, not sure what you want...but the big name guys I have in mind w/NFL Draft Tracker grades are:

5.8 DAWSON
5.8 KENDRICKS
5.7 MCKINNEY
5.6 PERRYMAN

2nd Tier ILB's are:

5.4 RAMIK WILSON
5.4 TAIWAN JONES

3rd Tier:

5.2 BEN HEENEY
5.2 HAYES PULLARD
5.2 AMARLO HERRERA

Then there is:

5.1 DAMIEN WILSON
5.1 JEFF LUC
5.1 JOHN TIMU

Then:

5.0 BRYCE HAGER
5.0 ZACH VIGIL
5.0 QUAYSHAWN NEALY

Then 4 or 5 that grade less than 5.0 (guys who have less than a 50/50 chance of making an NFL roster).

A grade of 6.0 means the guy should become an instant starter. By the way, Stephone Anthony graded 5.7. So you can see the ILB talent is slim this year.

For comparison's sake, OLB's Eli Harold and Randy Gregory grade out at 6.1 and 6.4 respectively.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/tracker?icampaign=draft-sub_nav_bar-drafteventpage-tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-team-input:sf/dt-by-round-input:1/dt-by-position-input:lb

PS - OLB's Lorenzo Mauldin, Jordan Hicks and Jake Ryan grade 5.6, 5.4 and 5.3 respectively.

[pittstang5]

So the consensus, and I'm probably stating the obvious, is, that if we want a top tier ILB, TT needs to trade up.

Who could be a partner? Pure speculation - Jets, Redskins and Chargers? I heard the Redskin's GM wants more picks and the Jets and Chargers only have a handful of picks left.

[smuggler]

How did TT literally go outside the box with the pick of The Randall? Do they literally even know what "literal" means?

He's a CB/FS. He is literally not a box defender. I agree, not a good joke.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Smidgeon, assuming the revised GBPG 2nd round mock is accurate, it begs this question:

Are the Packers better off after two rounds having drafted:

Option #1...DB RANDALL and ILB PAUL DAWSON?

or

Option #2...ILB STEPHONE ANTHONY and the next available CB at pick 62...say QUINTON ROLLINS or JOSH SHAW?

[pbmax]

pb, not sure what you want...but the big name guys I have in mind w/NFL Draft Tracker grades are:

5.8 DAWSON
5.8 KENDRICKS
5.7 MCKINNEY
5.6 PERRYMAN

2nd Tier ILB's are:

5.4 RAMIK WILSON
5.4 TAIWAN JONES

3rd Tier:

5.2 BEN HEENEY
5.2 HAYES PULLARD
5.2 AMARLO HERRERA

Then there is:

5.1 DAMIEN WILSON
5.1 JEFF LUC
5.1 JOHN TIMU

Then:

5.0 BRYCE HAGER
5.0 ZACH VIGIL
5.0 QUAYSHAWN NEALY

...

Just give me the one's you would be happy to get with the second round pick.

[red]

1. kendricks
2. perryman
3. mckinney
4. dawson

in that order. of course i still like the idea of sending a 3rd or maybe the second to the eagles for kendricks older brother

[red]

for those wanting a trade up (i do)

if we include our 2nd and 3rd we could move up about 12-14 spots

our 2nd and 4th would move us up about 5 spots