Official Day 2 (Rounds 2 and 3) of the 2015 NFL Draft Thread

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If he's not selected tonight, he'll be locked into a 4th round (at best) draftee contract for at least 3 years. If he reenters the draft next year, he has a chance to be drafted in the 1st round, with the contract that goes with it. Players sit out a full year all the time. Usually it's because of an injury, but what difference does it make?

if someone drafts him in the 4th tonight, don't they own his rights no matter if he signs or not

or do they just own him for a year?

[Joemailman]

if someone drafts him in the 4th tonight, don't they own his rights no matter if he signs or not

or do they just own him for a year?

I think just for a year.

[pbmax]

I might miss part of tonight. In case people want to peek ahead these are the two who were tipping last night:

NFL Update @MySportsUpdate 29m

Jeff Howe @jeffphowe

[pittstang5]

I might miss part of tonight. In case people want to peek ahead these are the two who were tipping last night:

NFL Update @MySportsUpdate 29m

Jeff Howe @jeffphowe

is that via twitter? I don't do the twitter

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thanks pb

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Yeah, if Collins or Gregory do not sign by this time next year, they could come back into the 2016 draft to vie for higher status.

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still think its very dumb

davonte adams signed a 4 year deal for just under 4 million

kyrie thorton (3rd round) got a 4 year deal at 2.85 million

richard rodgers (3rd round) 4 years 2.76 million

carl bradford (4th round) 4 years 2.65 million

cory linley (5th round) 4 year 2.4 mill

just take your fucking 100s of thousand and shut you fucking mouth. learn your lesson that when the cops say they want to talk to you about something, you don't avoid them, and in 4 years if your worth a shit, you'll actually get big money

they shit he's pulling would have to be a massive red flag for teams this year and next. its all about the money for the kid, nothing else

[pittstang5]

If I gotta see that Peyton Manning Commercial (Chicken parm you taste so good) one more god damn time, I'm gonna lose it.

[Rastak]

If I gotta see that Peyton Manning Commercial (Chicken parm you taste so good) one more god damn time, I'm gonna lose it.

I'm gonna lose it if they back up 4 or 5 picks again.

Seriously, if that shit happens again like last night I might have to re-evaluate watching the damn thing. I'm serious. Maybe just read about it when it ends.

[pittstang5]

Ras - I agree. I'm hoping they've worked the kinks out, but I'm not optimistic. It's bullshit, a pain in the ass and there's really no reason for it. Announce the pick then go to commercial. You can talk about the pick after commercial. Everyone I know who watched it last night had the same gripe. Radio show hosts were complaining about the same thing.

[Rastak]

Giants trade up.....on the clock.

That is one cool thing about the 3 day format....time to re-evaluate.

[Rastak]

Albert Breer @AlbertBreer 23s23 seconds ago
Giants are sending a 2, a 4 and a 7 to the Titans for the 2nd rounder.

[Rastak]

1. LANDON COLLINS | Alabama 6000|228 lbs|3JR New Orleans, La. (Dutchtown HS) 1/10/1994 (age 21) #26
GRADE 1st-2nd Round

BACKGROUND: A five-star defensive back recruit out of high school, Collins surprised many, including his own mother, when he spurned his home-state LSU for Alabama. He served as a back-up freshman safety in 2012 behind HaHa Clinton-Dix and Vinnie Sunseri, recording 17 tackles, mostly on special teams. Collins started the 2013 season as the starting dime defensive back before moving over to strong safety for the injured Sunseri, finishing second on the team in tackles (70), adding 4.0 tackles for loss, eight passes defended and two interceptions. He started all 14 games as a junior strong safety in 2014 and led the team in tackles (103) and interceptions (three) with 10 passes defended, earning First Team All-SEC honors. Collins opted to skip his senior season in Tuscaloosa and enter the 2015 NFL Draft.


STRENGTHS: Looks the part with thick upper and lower body bulk for the position…good timed and field speed with range to cover a large area…athletic body control and smooth change of direction skills to stay low and balanced in his transition…heat-seeking missile downhill vs. the run with no hesitation, taking explosive angles and finishing with a thud…excellent job in space, using his arms to wrap, drive and complete the process with low pad level and strong hands…fierce striker with violent intentions, but also smart to avoid penalties…read/reacts well as a run defender with timing and intimidation…athletic ballskills to be a playmaker when the ball is in the air…scheme diverse and welcomes added responsibility by the coaches – has ink on his face from keeping his nose in the playbook…impact performer on special teams coverage…highly productive, finishing first or second in tackles and passes defended in his two seasons as a starter…studious and already prepares like a professional with leadership qualities – not vocal, but a warrior on the field.


WEAKNESSES: Not as explosive in reverse or laterally, showing torso stiffness…questionable anticipation and recognition skills in coverage, routinely a step behind, especially with his vision stuck in the backfield…late eyes and hesitates, needing a moment to process what the quarterback wants to do – anticipation is very up/down…pauses in coverage allow receivers to get behind him, lacking the make-up speed to catch up…inconsistent spatial awareness, throwing off his angles to the catch point…will drop some high percentage interceptions…no serious injuries on his résumé, but playstyle leads to violent collisions and durability concerns.


SUMMARY: Collins was a versatile chess piece for Nick Saban, lining up at free safety, strong safety and weakside linebacker for Alabama the last two years, in both man and zone coverages. He has terrific break down skills as a reliable enforcer against the run, showing no indecision downhill, but tends to hesitate in pass coverage, not trusting his instincts and allowing his eyes to struggle with moving parts. Collins has above average tools with the physical make-up and football smarts to earn a paycheck in the NFL for a long time as a strong safety, but he lacks a natural feel in pass coverage, which is the question mark surrounding his transition to the pro game – top-30 prospect who is much better vs. the run than in pass coverage right now.

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Ras - I agree. I'm hoping they've worked the kinks out, but I'm not optimistic. It's bullshit, a pain in the ass and there's really no reason for it. Announce the pick then go to commercial. You can talk about the pick after commercial. Everyone I know who watched it last night had the same gripe. Radio show hosts were complaining about the same thing.

they aren't gonna work the kinks out. the same damn thing happened last year

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NFLN expert "he will stroke you if you come over the middle"

ummmm, ok