Ty Montgomery, 2015 Third Round Pick

[call_me_ishmael]

Sounds sort of like a certain 3rd round pick from a few years back. #89.

[wist43]

LOL. I enjoy the spectacle of your misery.

We're in the same position we've been for years running - and it is the curse I've warned about since TT was hired, i.e. long term BPA, vs filling holes and winning now.

We got lucky - super lucky in '10... but now we're taking steps backward for the future - again - when the future should be now!!!

We're a worse football team today than we were when dunderdummy and stumpy stabbed us in the heart in the NFCC game. We're worse off today, and we weren't good enough then... so what is to celebrate??

Should we celebrate that Randall might be a good player in 3 years - 3 years in waiting while Clay declines, and Rodgers declines, and Jordy declines. Then 3 years from now we'll replace Jordy, and we'll be into year 15 of the TT regime with another good team that is not quite good enough??

The Randall pick was bad enough, but there can be no excuse for the Montgomery pick - just pure idiocy. Even if he pans out in a few years - he does nothing for us now, and the future should be now - not that ever elusive 3 years from now, and 3 years from now, and 3 years from...

I've had enough of TT and his tortoise approach - at some point you have to make a drive to win it all.

[smuggler]

How could we possibly be worse off today? Subtraction by addition? I'm skeptical of this pick, too, but we aren't any worse off for it.

[Bossman641]

Strange pick. I'm shaken by the last time TT drafted a WR who wasn't a natural WR.....Cory Rodgers. Let's hope Montgomery fares better.

[wist43]

How could we possibly be worse off today? Subtraction by addition? I'm skeptical of this pick, too, but we aren't any worse off for it.

How are we better as a team??

We couldn't stop the run most of last year, and the players we had on the roster tasked to do that are gone - with no replacements. Bradford?? The guy showed absolutely nothing - less than nothing last year.

Randall is a foo-foo player - soft doesn't begin to describe how weak a tackler he is - and we've been a terrible tackling team for years!!!

I like Rollins, but he is raw - very raw. We lost a good, phsyical, up and coming corner in House; and an experienced, decorated vet in Williams, and replaced them with a foo-foo, and a project.

Then the Montgomery pick?? Where to start?? We spent a 3rd round pick on a kick returner?? Can he play ILB?? Can he tackle??

Of course we're worse off than last year... the only hope we have of contending with the big boys now, is if they've regressed more than we have. I just can't think in those terms - but it's how TT operates.

[Patler]

In 2014 the Packers were 31st in kickoff returns, averaging 19.1. They were absolutely horrible. If Montgomery does nothing but give them a better than average lick return option, he will be a solid contributor. Reports seem to agree that he is a better than average prospect in kick returns.

[Striker]

In 2014 the Packers were 31st in kickoff returns, averaging 19.1. They were absolutely horrible. If Montgomery does nothing but give them a better than average lick return option, he will be a solid contributor. Reports seem to agree that he is a better than average prospect in kick returns.

It didn't help that Harris would constantly try to return the ball from the -6 and only get out to the 5 or 10.

But yes, I'd agree with this. Improving the KR game would be a boon and well worth the pick if he can become a consistent weapon back there.

Also, this Montgomery kid weighed in 10 pounds lighter than Lacy and has some power behind him. Could be a good compliment, especially in a 3rd down back/WR capacity.

[Bretsky]

Sounds sort of like a certain 3rd round pick from a few years back. #89.

Robert Ferguson was a second round pick......selected ahead of Chris Chambers from UW MADTOWN

[call_me_ishmael]

Robert Ferguson was a second round pick......selected ahead of Chris Chambers from UW MADTOWN

James Jones. Thick body, 6'1" ish, dropsies, built like an RB.

[smuggler]

Fergie was a Sherman pick, though.

[Bretsky]

OOPS.....honestly.....I think James Jones is way more developed than this guy. He needs time to figure out how to be a better WR. I'd be surprised if he helps our WR core much this year.
I do hope he excels at special teams.

[wist43]

Good new/Bad news... in watching the Arizona St vs Stanford tape from '13 - Montgomery looked good, but Randall looked like a foo-foo.

[3irty1]

National Football Post's scouting report is like they were watching a different player than everyone else.

Montgomery is a big guy. He is listed at being 6020 – 220. He is built like a running back, but he has very good overall athleticism, good speed and excellent body control. I would estimate his playing speed in the 4.48 range. He has a quick burst to go along with his top end speed.

Montgomery has been Stanford’s go-to offensive player for the last two seasons. He lines up both inside in the slot as well as outside. He also has lined up as a running back on a few plays. As a receiver, Montgomery is a good route runner who looks quicker than he is fast. He can get in and out of cuts and shows good ability to get separation. He is effective on shorter passes in space and then his run skills take over. Montgomery is an excellent runner who can make defenders miss and has the strength to get yards after contact.

While he is best as a short to mid-range receiver, he can and does get deep, but lacks the top end speed to be a consistent deep threat. He has very good hands and will compete for the ball in traffic.
As a returner, Montgomery does an excellent job tracking the ball, has very good hands and can consistently make the first defender miss. With his run skills, he is a threat to go the distance on any return.

Overall, what Montgomery times at the Combine will have a lot to do with where he gets drafted. He has the skill set to start early in his career with the slot receiver being his best position. He should have no problem playing outside either. His return skills are such that he can be a No. 1 returner for most teams in the league.

If Montgomery times well, I can see him being drafted as high as the second round and I doubt he slides past the third.

Now that sounds like a Ted WR. Exploading out of cuts, running good routes, soft hands, and YAC.

Even if he sucks at everything but being a returner, this is a nice pick. Too long our definition of a good returner has been "guy who won't put the ball on the ground and lose you the game."

[Maxie the Taxi]

National Football Post's scouting report is like they were watching a different player than everyone else.

That's why I MUST trust TT and his staff. If I had a dime for every scouting report that contained contradictory info, I'd be a rich man. All TT and his staff do is watch film and evaluate talent. It's their profession. The scouting report BS is for us fans who usually don't know their ass from a hole in the ground but are convinced they do. [End of rant.]

[Bretsky]

Good new/Bad news... in watching the Arizona St vs Stanford tape from '13 - Montgomery looked good, but Randall looked like a foo-foo.

I am fine with Randall; knowing who we got in the 2nd I wish we'd have went LB but we got two good ball cover guys IMO and TT probably felt desperate in a league that's pass happy with losing both House and Tramon

I'll take what we can get out of round 3; it will be more than last year's pick.