Brady 4 Game Suspension Upheld

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Football Perspective @fbgchase 30m30 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Bob Costas is hyperventilating right now thinking about his opening night monologue

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Nice case for the fact that PSI measures at halftime DID show that the Pats balls were tampered with, though the strength of the finding is diminished by having only 4 Colts balls tested.

The link would help, huh? http://www.footballperspective.com/t...f-deflategate/

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Jets and Jay Feely make an appearance.

ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk 41s42 seconds ago
Judge Berman cites Jets K-ball case in ruling wiping out Brady's suspension http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Qcd

Here is the entire 40 page ruling.

http://t.co/ivxxw9HwjE

[Rastak]

Not upheld anymore.

Federal judge who ESPN legal analyst said had zero chance of overturning the suspension has done just that, as I expected.


"The suspension was "premised upon several significant legal deficiencies" including the failure to notify Brady of potential penalties, Berman wrote in his opinion, noting that an arbitrator's factual findings are generally not open to judicial challenge.

"Because there was no notice of a four-game suspension in the circumstances presented here, Commissioner Goodell may be said to have 'dispensed his own brand of industrial justice,'" Berman wrote, partially citing wording from a previous case."


And that is my problem with Goodell. He completely ignores the rule of law routinely. Case after case after case. Abritration awards are rarely overturned by courts. Very rarely. This pea brain has it happen routinely.




edit: Thanks for link PB.

[Guiness]

This is essentially what I expected would happen.No judge would sign off on how this was handled.

When the league's/Goodell's procedure was held to the light of day, there was no way it stand up. Any sort of rule of law view of the whole process would find all sorts of issues. I don't remember what it was, but part of the reason for the punishment was a rule that Brady broke that was no documented in anything he had access to?

The best parallel I can draw is that Goodell acted as if the anti-trust exemption the league enjoys for TV rights also applies to its disciplinary process.

[smuggler]

Brady is a cheater and everyone knows it, but he gets to hold up a hand with a single finger extended adorned with four rings and smugface a 'fuck you' to doodletwat Goodell.Everybody wins?

[Rastak]

Brady is a cheater and everyone knows it, but he gets to hold up a hand with a single finger extended adorned with four rings and smugface a 'fuck you' to doodletwat Goodell.Everybody wins?

He and thousands of other players. Jerry Rice and stickum come to mind. Feeley and kicking balls mentioned in the ruling. Panthers last year warming up footballs by the heater which prompted a warning to both the Vikings and the Panther to cease and desist. I have to admit I'm far less outraged than you. The whole spygate thing bothered me alot more.

I can picture Brady brow beating those two morons telling them to make sure the balls come in as soft as they can then these dummies went and let the air out.

If Brady specifically said "Go let the air out" I'd still not be outraged. It's stupid as hell in the first place that teams supply the balls and pick the air pressure range. Make 'em all 13 and make both teams use the same balls and the NFL officials bring them to the games. Problem solved.

[Rastak]

This is essentially what I expected would happen.No judge would sign off on how this was handled.

When the league's/Goodell's procedure was held to the light of day, there was no way it stand up. Any sort of rule of law view of the whole process would find all sorts of issues. I don't remember what it was, but part of the reason for the punishment was a rule that Brady broke that was no documented in anything he had access to?

The best parallel I can draw is that Goodell acted as if the anti-trust exemption the league enjoys for TV rights also applies to its disciplinary process.

Judge Doty asked him if he had even read the CBA which I thought was funny.

[sharpe1027]

The NFL might appeal, even if they don't (or lose on appeal), they might come back with a fine and Brady appeals the fine.

This is likely to drag on and we all lose for having to hear more about it for the next year+. Nobody wins.

[Rastak]

The NFL might appeal, even if they don't (or lose on appeal), they might come back with a fine and Brady appeals the fine.

This is likely to drag on and we all lose for having to hear more about it for the next year+. Nobody wins.

Now that we can agree on. I wish they'd just fix their procedural problems behind the scenes and move on.

[mraynrand]

It seems the simple result going forward is that if goodell rules outside of things specifically defined in the CBA regarding player conduct, players should immediately appeal. The finding was about goodell a power not about Brady's innocence.

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Judge Doty asked him if he had even read the CBA which I thought was funny.

Wow... Doty's an asshole.

I think the league should just forget about this litigation and instead just halt play at the start of every Patriot offensive possession and have the ball tested in the middle of the field. They can hire the lady with the bell from the last season of GoT to stand next to Brady, stare at him, and chant 'shame' while the test goes on.

[Pugger]

It seems the simple result going forward is that if goodell rules outside of things specifically defined in the CBA regarding player conduct, players should immediately appeal. The finding was about goodell a power not about Brady's innocence.

This is what folks are forgetting today. The judge didn't rule on Brady's guilt or innocence - just on how the penalty was meted out and the conduct during the appeal.

[Rastak]

Wow... Doty's an asshole.

I think the league should just forget about this litigation and instead just halt play at the start of every Patriot offensive possession and have the ball tested in the middle of the field. They can hire the lady with the bell from the last season of GoT to stand next to Brady, stare at him, and chant 'shame' while the test goes on.

Doty is simply observant....and the court of Goodell's own choosing in New York observed the same thing. He writes his own labor laws.

As a side note,

Man, you really hate the Pats....I don't like them myself and in particular I don't like Brady mainly due to that smirk but I can't say I have the same passion of dislike....lol.

[smuggler]

He and thousands of other players.I have to admit I'm far less outraged than you.

The NFL does not enforce every rule they have on the books. Technically, it's specifically prohibited in the rules to punch a ball in player possession. The ball is also considered to be part of the player that's possessing it, so doing so would also, technically, be grounds for game disqualification. Yet that rule has not been enforced for decades. Still, if the NFL wanted, they could FINE players for having done it in last week's games.

The reason the NFL tried to lay the hammer here, laid the hammer on the Pats for Spygate, and the Saints for Bountygate, is that they sent communication to the Saints and Patriots informing them the cat was out and that they need to stop the cheating. They did not comply.

If the league had wanted to crack down on Stickem, Rice would have backed down.

As it stands, there is no justice in the NFL or in the US as a whole for that matter. There is just posturing, politics, and litigation.

As it applies to the NFL, Goodell will now need to levy harsher penalties more often to offset the fact the union will appeal literally everything that comes down. That's great for a cheat like Brady, but pretty terrible for basically anyone playing it straight.