Joemailman's Fearless Stab At The 53 Man Roster - Post Family Night Version

[Harlan Huckleby]

With a guy of Kuhn's age and status, if they were going to cut him, they'd have already done it... He's staying for one more year.

But they wouldn't be able to cut him until they put Rip to the test in preseason.

You've created a formula whereby it is impossible to replace an aging vet with a rookie. I don't think that can be true.

[HarveyWallbangers]

QB (3) Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
RB (5) Lacy, Starks, Neal, Kuhn, Ripkowski
WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis
TE (4) Rodgers, Quarless, Backman, Perillo
OL (8) Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Tretter, Walker, Barclay

DL (6) Daniels, Raji, Boyd, Pennel, Gaston*, Ringo*
LB (9) Peppers, Perry, Neal, Mulumba, Elliott, Matthews, Barrington, Ryan, Palmer
DB (10) Shields, Hayward, Rollins, Randall, Gunter, Goodson, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson

ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode

Suspended: Guion, Jones

[smuggler]

Nah, Harlan. The parts of Rips game the mgmt doubt can only be alleviated with more and more time in the film room and with the coaching staff. Kuhn will train his own successor over the course of the season. Then he'll either depart in free agency or retire. See? Possible to replace him even with your screwball logic.

[sharpe1027]

I didn't suspect money would have much to do with Kuhn decision. My only thought on that was that the team would be unlikely to cut a well-respected, longtime packer so they could sign him off street later with no commitment. Bad karma. Probably Thompson has done this with some journeyman vets, but I can't really remember specific examples.

I don't think they would do it with the intent of resigning him later. However, if they were to cut him to make room for someone else, I can't see him making another team. It is not exactly the same, but they let Tauscher hit free agency when he was at the tail end of his career. No other team would sign him. That allowed the Packers to sign him several games into the season.

[vince]

QB (3) Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
RB (5) Lacy, Starks, Neal, Kuhn, Ripkowski
WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis
TE (4) Rodgers, Quarless, Backman, Perillo
OL (8) Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Tretter, Walker, Barclay

DL (6) Daniels, Raji, Boyd, Pennel, Gaston*, Ringo*
LB (9) Peppers, Perry, Neal, Mulumba, Elliott, Matthews, Barrington, Ryan, Palmer
DB (10) Shields, Hayward, Rollins, Randall, Gunter, Goodson, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson

ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode

Suspended: Guion, Jones

That has to be really close. I'm not sure Backman and/or Perillo are the 53 best but I see the logic in keeping them on the 53 - especially with the questions surrounding Quarless.

My preference would be to add a LB in place of one of the TE's for greater gameday value - not sure which one yet though.

[HarveyWallbangers]

That has to be really close. I'm not sure Backman and/or Perillo are the 53 best but I see the logic in keeping them on the 53 - especially with the questions surrounding Quarless.

My preference would be to add a LB in place of one of the TE's for greater gameday value - not sure which one yet though.

I was going to go with 3 TEs and perhaps Lane Taylor with Bakh's injury and Barclay struggling. That and Goodson vs. Banjo (perhaps even Fanor; not sure how much he is playing special teams) were the two most difficult decisions. Plus, who knows what's going to happen at DL with Guion and Jones out.

[sharpe1027]

That has to be really close. I'm not sure Backman and/or Perillo are the 53 best but I see the logic in keeping them on the 53 - especially with the questions surrounding Quarless.

My preference would be to add a LB in place of one of the TE's for greater gameday value - not sure which one yet though.

Would the last guy to make the team even be active game days?

[vince]

Would the last guy to make the team even be active game days?

If he's playing special teams he would. There are a bunch of guys there who would be inactive candidates that a linebacker TBD may have ST value over - Hundley, Neal, Janis, Backman, Perillo, Walker, Ringo, Gaston, Gunter, Goodson... Depends on health mostly... and we know the history of a large group of our linebacking corps.

[smuggler]

I agree except for Goodson. If he isn't useful or active for ST, I don't see how he makes the squad...

[HarveyWallbangers]

I agree except for Goodson. If he isn't useful or active for ST, I don't see how he makes the squad...

I would think he'd need to fill one of the outside gunner roles.

[Bretsky]

QB (3) Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
RB (5) Lacy, Starks, Neal, Kuhn, Ripkowski
WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis
TE (4) Rodgers, Quarless, Backman, Perillo
OL (8) Bakhtiari, Sitton, Linsley, Lang, Bulaga, Tretter, Walker, Barclay

DL (6) Daniels, Raji, Boyd, Pennel, Gaston*, Ringo*
LB (9) Peppers, Perry, Neal, Mulumba, Elliott, Matthews, Barrington, Ryan, Palmer
DB (10) Shields, Hayward, Rollins, Randall, Gunter, Goodson, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson

ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode

Suspended: Guion, Jones

You are probably right; man, that's a whole lot of shit at TE there.

I'm not sure you'd lose that much by cutting all 4. I may like Perillo more than the rest of the muck

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm not sure you'd lose that much by cutting all 4. I may like Perillo more than the rest of the muck

How about we wait to see what Richard Rodgers shows us this year before we cut him before his second season?

[smuggler]

TOO SLOW. Any player that only runs a 4.8 after adding 30 lbs in one offseason is shite and should be cut!

[vince]

I was going to go with 3 TEs and perhaps Lane Taylor with Bakh's injury and Barclay struggling. That and Goodson vs. Banjo (perhaps even Fanor; not sure how much he is playing special teams) were the two most difficult decisions. Plus, who knows what's going to happen at DL with Guion and Jones out.

Yeah Barclay's a huge question mark yet. First game from what I saw (I watched twice and payed specific attention to him the second time.) He's OK moving forward and left run blocking, and anchoring straight up against a bull rush, but he fell hard more than once trying to move right with his bad knee trying to block weak moves around the edge. Moving and turning right with the ACL and big brace didn't go well.

I think he may actually better off at LT where he has help to the inside when he has to move right and stress the rehabbing knee. He might hold up better against edge rushers on the left side than the right. We'll see on Sunday. Barclay's been serviceable pass protecting when he's been 100%. Anything less than that is a problem. As of now, Barclay at RT is a problem.

I'm hoping the guy you have making the cut on the OL - Josh Walker - is a big find. He looks like a marshmallow but he can drive and he also looks like he can pass protect - at least at guard.

I didn't notice when Ted signed him to the practice squad last year but he stuck, now he's a year in and he's getting it done. He's more than holding his own in 1 on 1's (ahead of Tretter, Bakhtiari, Taylor, way ahead of Barclay and all the rest the group fighting to make the team) and looked good against the Pats - against 2's and 3's. Not sure if he can play tackle, but he held up far better than Barclay at RT last week.

Keep him around, turn some more of that flab into meat, sick Solari on his ass for a year, and he might be a real keeper. Young, 6'5" 330 with some skills is something to work with. Along with Gunter, he looks like he could be the Cinderella story of camp this year.

Unless Barclay is so far away that he gets cut, I think they should stick with the 8 on the line you listed. Walker's better than Taylor now and he's just getting started. Tretter has far more flexibility to move all around the line, and Taylor can't play Tackle as far as I can tell. Maybe he can make another roster. If he makes this one I think it means someone is hurt. That could be Barclay but it's not good whoever it is.

Similar situation with Banjo. He tries hard but I don't want him making the team. I'll take Goodson, Fanor, Glover-Wright and just about anyone else who plays hard too but also has some defensive upside - even if it's down the road - over Banjo. If he does make the team (the fact that I don't like him guarantees he will), at some point he might actually play safety. Short and slow as the last line of defense isn't the way to go if you can avoid it. Plus, six out of the ten DB's on the roster will have positional flexibility to move in and out of safety roles if needed (Hyde, Rollins and Randall included). These guys can move inside, outside, up, back, they can tackle, make plays on the ball - and they can all play special teams well too.

ST specialist Jarrett Bush just got pretty much banned from the league. 10 games, no contract, can't play D, and aging is too much for a one-hit ST wonder to overcome. Unless you're a young bad-ass torpedo with a future on offense too like Ripkowski, or the next Devin Hester, (hopefully) there's no room on this roster for a special teams specialist with no upside.

No more Banjo.

[Fritz]

Nobody has an All Pro reserve at tackle but it sure does seem shaky behind the starting five.