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Joemailman's Fearless Stab At The 53 Man Roster - Post Family Night Version
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Is it a given that Quarless will be suspended this year? Or will the NFL wait until a verdict is reached?I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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I'd assume quarless will get a game or more. Goodell is just a little preoccupied right now, but he'll turn his attention to him eventually. Stupid that the team doesn't know for sure what will happen with him, the suspension, if it comes could be just about anything.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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I'm assuming it's a given with the gun infraction but that could be wrong. I haven't looked but there's precedent for that isn't there? It was Burress that shot himself in the leg right? His was a felony in NY (I think) so that was much more serious legally but similar I'd say from the NFL's perspective. He was out for a long time due to his jail sentence I think. Not sure what action the league actually took.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostIs it a given that Quarless will be suspended this year? Or will the NFL wait until a verdict is reached?
And I'm not sure about timing either but they may wait until the verdict as well. I don't think they have to wait but if they haven't acted yet it would appear they will. Not sure of the precedent on that either. When does this go to court anyway?
Bottom line is I don't have a clue Joe.
I'm sure no-one's surprised about that...
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I just looked at the Packers' website and they list Hubbard at 6'6"! Peppers is the tallest at 6'7".Originally posted by red View Postthis doesn't really have anything to do with the final 53, but did anyone else notice how insanely tall adrian hubbard is?
they showed one shot of the huddle and he was by far the tallest guy in there, by about a half a foot
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yeah, peppers wasn't in the huddle at the time. i think it was hubbard and a bunch of 6-1 and under guysOriginally posted by Pugger View PostI just looked at the Packers' website and they list Hubbard at 6'6"! Peppers is the tallest at 6'7".
he looked massive
both guys are huge for LB's
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I believe Red said he looked massive.Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View PostI think red is sweet on Hubbard. "Tall", "dark", "huge".
It's fine, no need to confirm or deny. We all get awe struck from time to time.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Close probably, but I think Guion and Jones have to be on the 53, which could mean losing a player to another team on the DL before we can adjust. I think Ripkowski doesn't make the team, but add White as a 6th receiver. TE is a complete toss up after Rodgers and Q. I think (again) that Joe Thomas makes the team in place of Palmer.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostQB (3) Rodgers, Tolzien, Hundley
RB (5) Lacy, Starks, Rajion Neal, Kuhn, Ripkowski
WR (5) Nelson, Cobb, Adams, Montgomery, Janis,
TE (4) Rodgers, Quarless, Backman, Perillo
OL (8) Linsley, Tretter, Lang, Sitton, Taylor, Bakhtiari, Bulaga, Barclay
DL (6) Boyd, Daniels, Pennel, Raji, Ringo, Thornton
LB (9) Barrington, Elliott, Matthews, Mulumba, Neal, Palmer, Peppers, Perry, Ryan
DB (10)Goodson, Gunter, Hayward, Randall, Rollins, Shields, Hyde, Burnett, Clinton-Dix,
Richardson
ST (3) Crosby, Masthay, Goode
Suspended: Guion, JonesThe only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I don't think Guion and Jones can be on the 53 while suspended.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostClose probably, but I think Guion and Jones have to be on the 53, which could mean losing a player to another team on the DL before we can adjust. I think Ripkowski doesn't make the team, but add White as a 6th receiver. TE is a complete toss up after Rodgers and Q. I think (again) that Joe Thomas makes the team in place of Palmer.
http://overthecap.com/explaining-roster-designations/
I think the fact that Myles white isn't a big ST contributor will hurt his chances. Rip was drafted to eventually replace Kuhn. The only question is whether the future is now. Thomas may have a shot as dime 'backer.Reserve/Suspended- This listing is for players who have been suspended by the NFL. Players on the suspended list are not paid for their time suspended, do not count against the active 53, and their salaries are reduced to reflect the weeks they are suspended. For example Justin Blackmon of the Jaguars will see his base salary drop from 17 games of pay to just 13 games of pay. Players can also have their signing bonuses reduced due to forfeiture provisions in the CBA. In the case of drug suspension this is mandatory. In other cases teams will determine if they will go after bonus money. I am unsure if this forfeiture is accrued during of after the season, but will try to clarify at a later date. While suspended the cap charges count in full.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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According to this article, suspended players don't count against the final 53.
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I profess to not knowing for sure, but doesn't a suspended player have to be on the 53, then put on suspended after that? Meaning someone has to be released and then added.Originally posted by smuggler View PostAccording to this article, suspended players don't count against the final 53.
http://gnb.247sports.com/Bolt/When-s...yers-38698793/The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I don't think so. On cut-down day, teams have to turn in their 53 man active roster, as well as their reserve rosters: Reserve-Injured, Reserve-Injured, Designated for return, and Reserve-Suspended. Once the suspension is over, they then have to either release the player, or add him to the roster and release someone else.Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI profess to not knowing for sure, but doesn't a suspended player have to be on the 53, then put on suspended after that? Meaning someone has to be released and then added.I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Originally posted by bobblehead View PostI profess to not knowing for sure, but doesn't a suspended player have to be on the 53, then put on suspended after that? Meaning someone has to be released and then added.What Bobblehead suggests makes sense, because:Originally posted by Joemailman View PostI don't think so. On cut-down day, teams have to turn in their 53 man active roster, as well as their reserve rosters: Reserve-Injured, Reserve-Injured, Designated for return, and Reserve-Suspended. Once the suspension is over, they then have to either release the player, or add him to the roster and release someone else.
- A suspended FA has to be signed by someone before his suspension starts.
- IR Designated to Return requires the player be on the final 53, then moved to IR (unless the rule has been changed)
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I just figured it punishes team and player much more if they have to count against 53...almost a reward if they don't. I am only going on what makes sense to me, therefor I am likely wrong.Originally posted by Patler View PostWhat Bobblehead suggests makes sense, because:
- A suspended FA has to be signed by someone before his suspension starts.
- IR Designated to Return requires the player be on the final 53, then moved to IR (unless the rule has been changed)The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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