RapSheet says Nelson Diagnosis is torn ACL

[MadScientist]

AGAIN...

Go throw in some tape from the 1996 Packers.

If Aaron Rodgers is healthy, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

In 96, two of their losses came when both Brooks and Freeman were out. They even looked bad in their win against the lowly Rams. When Free came back and they picked up Rison, the offense got better. This offense will sputter of Cobb or Adams goes out.

[Harlan Huckleby]

AGAIN...

Go throw in some tape from the 1996 Packers.

If Aaron Rodgers is healthy, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Every team is different. They had Chewy & Keith "woah Nellie!" Jackson as solid receiving threats at TE. Andre Rison was magically available to sign mid-season. Their defense was the best in Packer memory.

Degrading the receiver corps certainly matters. The rest of the team has to be that much stronger to compensate. Rodgers or Favre or Starr can not succeed if targets are covered; we've seen games where Rodgers has been stymied by well-jammed and covered receivers.

[Freak Out]

What happened to bringing in Reggie Wayne? I go out of cell range for a few days and the guy is in New England.

[smuggler]

Unfortunately, he was pretty much signing his contract as Nelson went down. If his agent had pumped the brakes to sniff out interest from the Packers, it might have screwed Reggie out of the Patriots deal ($500k signing bonus). Can hardly blame him.

[Joemailman]

Jordy on how he hurt the knee:

"It was when I landed. Originally I thought I landed right leg first, but obviously watching it, it was left leg and then right leg, which even is more baffling to me why it happened. So, yeah, it's one of those things.

On whether the hip surgery had anything to do with it:

"Absolutely not. I had surgery on my left hip, this is my right knee. I don’t think it had anything to do with it. We did a great job rehabbing. Haven’t had any issue through the whole process, whether it’s doing rehab, doing the OTAs, camp, playing in two games. I felt great.

[Pugger]

He confirms it was a right knee ACL, not the landing leg. Even Jordy was surprised because he thought he must have done it when landing.

Hip surgery was on the left.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/322868181.html

I wonder if he had been unconsciously favoring his right side after the surgery and was putting extra weight and pressure on that leg?

[sharpe1027]

I wonder if he had been unconsciously favoring his right side after the surgery and was putting extra weight and pressure on that leg?

Well, he landed on the other one first, so it wasn't exactly favoring it. If he had more of a chronic type problem from favoring one leg it would make more sense to me.

[George Cumby]

I wonder if he had been unconsciously favoring his right side after the surgery and was putting extra weight and pressure on that leg?

Quite possibly. The best predictor of injury is a pre-existing injury. The injury to one leg could very well lead to an asymmetry of some type which contributed to the new injury. Saying the old injury didn't contribute to the new injury because it was on the opposite leg is facile. There is a growing body of evidence that suggests many knee injuries are directly tied to issues in the hip, whether it's inadequate mobility, alignment, excessive mobility, strength deficits or what have you.

[sharpe1027]

Quite possibly. The best predictor of injury is a pre-existing injury. The injury to one leg could very well lead to an asymmetry of some type which contributed to the new injury. Saying the old injury didn't contribute to the new injury because it was on the opposite leg is facile. There is a growing body of evidence that suggests many knee injuries are directly tied to issues in the hip, whether it's inadequate mobility, alignment, excessive mobility, strength deficits or what have you.

What type of knee injuries? It would seem to make a big difference if they are repetitive vs. single-incident. In any event, this did not appear to be situation of favoring, per the original post. The other factors you mentioned are impossible to rule out (or prove to be the cause). I think the evidence you are referring to is primarily statistics. Thus, there is correlation with what is likely a small increase in frequency of injuries.

Did it matter here? Probably not, but maybe.

[smuggler]

Wow. His right knee? From the replay, it appears he injured his left while falling, but I guess the fall was the result of the injury, rather than visa versa.

[Pugger]

Well, he landed on the other one first, so it wasn't exactly favoring it. If he had more of a chronic type problem from favoring one leg it would make more sense to me.

I'm not speaking about that particular play but Jordy could have been favoring his left side since he got cleared to practice again putting more weight and pressure on his right leg.

[sharpe1027]

I'm not speaking about that particular play but Jordy could have been favoring his left side since he got cleared to practice again putting more weight and pressure on his right leg.

OK, but what does that have to do with tearing his ACL on that particular play?

[Pugger]

OK, but what does that have to do with tearing his ACL on that particular play?

I was just speculating that putting more pressure on his right side all these weeks contributed to tearing it. I'm not in the medical field so I could be completely wrong here.

[smuggler]

I think it was just a fluke. It's not a very strong ligament and can go at any time, really, if your knee gets compromised.

[sharpe1027]

I was just speculating that putting more pressure on his right side all these weeks contributed to tearing it. I'm not in the medical field so I could be completely wrong here.

It is possible, there are a lot of things that could have contributed. The extra ketchup he put on his hamburger before the game might also have contributed.

My view is since the amount of pressure exerted in that particular play was enough to tear his ACL, it was going to tear no matter what.