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RapSheet says Nelson Diagnosis is torn ACL
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Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3m3 minutes ago
Important details from @AdamSchefter on #Packers WR Jordy Nelson's knee injury: Nelson tore his ACL but MRI showed other ligaments intact.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I understand everything you are saying. He's a very good receiver and we won't replace everything he brings to the table.Originally posted by Packgator View PostTo appreciate how good Jordy is, you can't just look at his final stats for a season (or even a game). It's easy to look at a box score after a game when he has 8 catches, 130 yards, 2 TD's, and say he had a good game. But even the games (such as the ones you mentioned) when his stats are oridinary he is still very important to have on the field. Jordy is a rare "elete" WR who is a football player first and a WR second, and he does so many things that help the TEAM win.
However, to think that this offense is going to fall off significantly as long as Rodgers is 100% healthy is lunacy. QBs like Brady and Wilson have done extremely well without a wealth of talent around them at the skill positions. Nelson IS replaceable...not with one WR, but as a team. Cobb steps it up, Adams steps it up, Lacy steps it up, the defense steps it up, etc.
The fact is that Green Bay went through this exact same scenario 19 years ago. The Packers lost Robert Brooks early in the year...coming off a monster breakout season that was equivalent to any that Sharpe had put up in the years before (almost 1500 yards and 13 TDs)...and after him they had very little PROVEN talent on paper at receiver. Freeman was 24 years old and only had 8 career receptions to his name. Don Beebe was 32 and well past his prime. Derrick Mayes was a rookie. The current trio of Cobb/Adams/Montgomery appear to be SIGNIFICANTLY better than what Green Bay had to work with in 1996.
Still, Green Bay wound up being the NUMBER ONE OFFENSE IN THE ENTIRE LEAGUE in 1996.
How the hell did that happen? They lost a "go-to" receiver that had "field awareness" and got the ball to the pylon and all that jazz. It had to be CRIPPLING!!!!!!
Oh wait. You say that Green Bay had a guy wearing a #4 on his jersey. Um...yeah.
Oh wait. You say that Green Bay has a guy wearing a #12 on his jersey this year. Um...yeah.
That's ALL that matters. Rodgers at 100% for the full year gives Green Bay as much a chance at a title as anyone else in the league...no matter who the guys lining up at WR happen to be. Favre proved it in 1996. Rodgers will prove it again in 2015.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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I don't agree with you, Nelson brought extra punch to passing game, there is a loss in production. He was the clear number one WR, every team would be degraded from that loss.Originally posted by King Friday View PostHowever, to think that this offense is going to fall off significantly as long as Rodgers is 100% healthy is lunacy. QBs like Brady and Wilson have done extremely well without a wealth of talent around them at the skill positions. Nelson IS replaceable...not with one WR, but as a team. Cobb steps it up, Adams steps it up, Lacy steps it up, the defense steps it up, etc.
I was going to shut you up with Nelson's giant salary, but I guess his cap number is not staggering.
Aaron Rodgers $18,250,000
Clay Matthews $12,700,000
Julius Peppers $12,000,000
Sam Shields $9,062,500
Josh Sitton $7,000,000
TJ Lang $5,800,000
Randall Cobb $5,350,000
Morgan Burnett $5,131,250
Jordy Nelson $4,600,000
Mike Neal $4,250,000
Bryan Bulaga $3,568,750
Mason Crosby $3,550,000
Letroy Guion $2,750,000
Sean Richardson $2,350,000
Nick Perry $2,386,125
Datone Jones $2,104,527
HaHa Clinton-Dix $1,895,114
James Starks $1,837,500
Andrew Quarless $1,750,000
BJ Raji $1,750,000
Mike Daniels $1,617,146
Don Barclay $1,542,000
Damarus Randall $1,439,223
Tim Masthay $1,340,000
Scott Tolzien $1,200,000
Casey Hayward $1,053,154
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well its official, jordy is done for the year
but how tough is that mofo?
how many guys do you see down on the field forever with that injury, only to be carted to the locker room
jordy didn't even do down, ran off the field, and walked to the locker room on his own, with no limp what so ever
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The one thing Nelson gave them that nobody else can supply is the combination of speed, strength and route running ability that made him a great deep threat. How many 50+ yard TDs did Nelson have last year? I think it was one for each of the regular season home game wins, so eight in all. This year the Packers should be happy if they get two of those out of their receivers. Nelson won't be replaced by someone who does what he does but not quite as well. The key will be finding guys who can help sustain drives and improving red zone efficiency.
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James Jones, although not fast, was surprisingly good at getting open downfield. Jones' YPC of 14 with the Packers is pretty respectable. I'm not usually in favor of picking up veterans at this point of the season, but I wouldn't mind getting him if he were available. His YPC last year dropped to 9, but I suspect that had more to do with the team he was on.Originally posted by King Friday View PostWe don't need 5 guys who only operate within 8 yards of the LOS.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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