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  • #16
    Fuggit, bring the kid back. I believe in redemption and second chances.

    I'll bet my left nut he doesn't pull the same stoopit shit again.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
      Fuggit, bring the kid back. I believe in redemption and second chances.

      I'll bet my left nut he doesn't pull the same stoopit shit again.
      And this time he might really REALLY live up to his potential. Really.
      [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by swede View Post
        And this time he might really REALLY live up to his potential. Really.
        Glad you found us again Swede. Not gonna happen with Bostick though. Couldn't think fast enough to keep up with no huddle offense. Too bad. He had Fuckdoggle written all over him.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #19
          Originally posted by swede View Post
          And this time he might really REALLY live up to his potential. Really.
          Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          Glad you found us again Swede. Not gonna happen with Bostick though. Couldn't think fast enough to keep up with no huddle offense. Too bad. He had Fuckdoggle written all over him.
          I realize now I may have used one too many "really's" in my quest to replicate the multi-year experiment in optimism that was Bostick.
          [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            Not gonna happen with Bostick though. Couldn't think fast enough to keep up with no huddle offense.

            I saw a quote about Backman today that was a bit of a damning-with-faint-praise chuckle:
            "(Backman) has done a nice job," tight ends coach Jerry Fontenot said last week. "He still needs to get a better, clearer understanding of schemes and things. But he does study and he's able to retain some information.
            Actually the rest of statement was positive, I just found that line unfortunate.

            Was listening to Mike Heller's radio show, he thought Q was headed to IR-DR.

            I don't think the IR-DR option is a resource that you want to keep in your back pocket for later. On contrary, I think you want to use it on first player where it is a good fit. The IR-DR is a double-edged sword, you don't particularly want to park a great player there.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
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              I saw a quote about Backman today that was a bit of a damning-with-faint-praise chuckle:
              That's called damning with Hawk praise on the Packers.

              Bostick had Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson give up on him. That's not easy to come back from. I'm not saying they don't make mistakes, but they had at least two (three?) years to watch the kid not develop. He doesn't come back unless something else happens.

              I don't agree that RichRod is less than decent at TE. He's picked up his blocking and Rodgers clearly trusts him. He does need to take making yourself open classes from Jones though.

              McCarthy downplayed Q's prognosis, speaking only about this week. But I am doubt they add Guion and a TE this week.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                I thought about that. It really doesn't matter how valuable the player is that you use the IR-DR on. It is 100% about maximizing # of roster spots. All that matters is that the player deserves a roster spot, and Q meets that threshold. If Clay Matthews gets hurt, there is no particular advantage to IR-DR rather than having him on inactive list.

                The valid reason to not IR-DR Q is that he may only be out for 4 weeks. You really want to get the full 8-week roster bonus out of deal. Parking a healthy guy on IR-DR is a waste.

                I like the IR-DR for Q because he is not a premium player. 8 weeks of a replacement guy might be OK.
                My point is that they could probably IR Quarless, sign a replacement off the street and not see much of a decline. Who, you ask? It doesn't matter.

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                • #23
                  Q might be an ideal candidate for IR-DR. As mentioned above, it is all about maximizing roster spots, and the Packers are getting close to having problems with active players. Bulaga, Adams, Burnett, Richardson, Goodson, Jones, all could be out in addition to Quarless. It would free up a spot for Guion, or someone else. In a few weeks the designation becomes irrelevant anyway. If it seems clear that Quarless will be out at least six weeks, you might as well use the designation.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                    My point is that they could probably IR Quarless, sign a replacement off the street and not see much of a decline. Who, you ask? It doesn't matter.
                    I agree. It's Perillo time. Perillo probably knows enough of the schemes and can put his beer barrel weight in there to block for the fatmobile.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                      I agree. It's Perillo time. Perillo probably knows enough of the schemes and can put his beer barrel weight in there to block for the fatmobile.
                      Well, Perillo is the same SIZE as Ron Kramer.

                      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                      • #26
                        "Ron Kramer is murdering the Giants from his TE spot"

                        He's like a Ray Lewis out there!
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                          My point is that they could probably IR Quarless, sign a replacement off the street and not see much of a decline. Who, you ask? It doesn't matter.
                          Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                          I agree. It's Perillo time. Perillo probably knows enough of the schemes and can put his beer barrel weight in there to block for the fatmobile.

                          If another tight end is injured somewhere down the road, it might be nice to have an experienced guy, like Quarless, available. Nothing requires you to bring them back. Anyone really valuable they will want back as soon as possible, 6 or 7 instead of 8 weeks. I doubt they will use it for a starter, unless they really expect him to be out 10 or 12 weeks, but have hope that he might get back sooner.

                          Regardless of the player, since they will have at least four games in the books by the time another player might be injured, the usefulness of the designation will be gone very soon.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            "Ron Kramer is murdering the Giants from his TE spot"

                            He's like a Ray Lewis out there!
                            Kramer was the original "Gronk."

                            [Not the best highlight film for Maxie the Taxi's punting though. Check it out at about 1:39. I blame the sloppy, slippery field. ]
                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                              Kramer was the original "Gronk."
                              Then John Mackey came along, and everyone forgot Ron Kramer.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                Then John Mackey came along, and everyone forgot Ron Kramer.
                                John who?
                                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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