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  • #31
    Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
    Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.
    To compare Edwards to Huff is like comparing Bush to Ki-Jana Carter. Huff is better than Edwards. Better in coverage, better tackling, better overall. Ed Reed is a better comparison.
    Have Bush tear his ACL in his first pre-season game and he'll be exactly like Ki-Jana Carter. I agree that Huff will be a good NFL player, but I'd hesitate to put him on the level of and Ed Reed just yet. Yes, Huff is a better tackler than Edwards, but so am I. Watch the video someone was kind enough to link to. Watch how often Huff hits someone above the shoulderpads and swings him to tackle. Huff's a little undersized for a safety in the NFL, he needs to learn to hit low or he's gonna get run over by some of the big WR's at this level.

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    • #32
      I don't like to put any college player on the level of any proven NFL player, only cause how many NFL games have they played? yeah non.
      "I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
        Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.
        To compare Edwards to Huff is like comparing Bush to Ki-Jana Carter. Huff is better than Edwards. Better in coverage, better tackling, better overall. Ed Reed is a better comparison.
        Have Bush tear his ACL in his first pre-season game and he'll be exactly like Ki-Jana Carter. I agree that Huff will be a good NFL player, but I'd hesitate to put him on the level of and Ed Reed just yet. Yes, Huff is a better tackler than Edwards, but so am I. Watch the video someone was kind enough to link to. Watch how often Huff hits someone above the shoulderpads and swings him to tackle. Huff's a little undersized for a safety in the NFL, he needs to learn to hit low or he's gonna get run over by some of the big WR's at this level.
        Huff is 6'1" 205 as of now, and can tackle above the pads like LBs does. That is a plus, not a negative. Sharper likes to tackle low and thats why he misses too much tackles. Deion Sanders tackled very low, and thats why he wasnt known as a tackler. Huff was able to take down bigger players in college, so no reason he cant do so in the pro.

        Huff will be better than Hawk and Williams, the 2 players rated ahead of him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
          Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.
          To compare Edwards to Huff is like comparing Bush to Ki-Jana Carter. Huff is better than Edwards. Better in coverage, better tackling, better overall. Ed Reed is a better comparison.
          Have Bush tear his ACL in his first pre-season game and he'll be exactly like Ki-Jana Carter. I agree that Huff will be a good NFL player, but I'd hesitate to put him on the level of and Ed Reed just yet. Yes, Huff is a better tackler than Edwards, but so am I. Watch the video someone was kind enough to link to. Watch how often Huff hits someone above the shoulderpads and swings him to tackle. Huff's a little undersized for a safety in the NFL, he needs to learn to hit low or he's gonna get run over by some of the big WR's at this level.
          Huff is 6'1" 205 as of now, and can tackle above the pads like LBs does. That is a plus, not a negative. Sharper likes to tackle low and thats why he misses too much tackles. Deion Sanders tackled very low, and thats why he wasnt known as a tackler. Huff was able to take down bigger players in college, so no reason he cant do so in the pro.

          Huff will be better than Hawk and Williams, the 2 players rated ahead of him.
          Sharper put his head down when he tried to tackle, that's why he missed so many. I guess I'm just a little old school when it comes to tackling. Hit low, right under the shoulderpads, wrap up hard, and explode the hips through the ball carrier. I don't see it as positive that LB's can and do tackle above the pads. I do, however, agree with you halfway, Tank. Huff WILL be better than Williams, but Linebacker is more of an impact player than Corner or Safety in the NFL, which is why I have Hawk above Huff.

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          • #35
            Huff will be a probowl caliber player in the NFL. He is a tremendous player. I think he will go in the 8-9 area.
            Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by b bulldog
              Huff will be a probowl caliber player in the NFL. He is a tremendous player. I think he will go in the 8-9 area.
              I'd agree

              1. Bush
              2. M Williams
              3. Leinart
              4. Ferguson
              5. Hawk
              6. V Davis
              7. V Young
              8. Ngata
              9. Huff
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #37
                I won't mind Hawk. They can certainly use him.

                But I want to see Mario or VY. More excting, and why not gamble with other people's money?

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                • #38
                  1. BUSH
                  2.lINY
                  3.yOUNG
                  4.Fergy
                  5.Mario
                  6.Davis
                  7.Hawk
                  8.Ngata
                  9.Huff
                  Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by b bulldog
                    1. BUSH
                    2.lINY
                    3.yOUNG
                    4.Fergy
                    5.Mario
                    6.Davis
                    7.Hawk
                    8.Ngata
                    9.Huff
                    I was closer to you and then listened to the ESPN guy this weekend who said if the Saints kept their pick it looked like it was down to Williams or Ferguson with the bias being toward Mario. Then they said the Titans are already quarreling; the coaches want Leinart and scouts want Young. Interesting to listed to.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
                      Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                      Originally posted by CyclonePackFan
                      Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Antuan Edwards was a S/CB coming out of college. Of course, he sucked at both.
                      To compare Edwards to Huff is like comparing Bush to Ki-Jana Carter. Huff is better than Edwards. Better in coverage, better tackling, better overall. Ed Reed is a better comparison.
                      Have Bush tear his ACL in his first pre-season game and he'll be exactly like Ki-Jana Carter. I agree that Huff will be a good NFL player, but I'd hesitate to put him on the level of and Ed Reed just yet. Yes, Huff is a better tackler than Edwards, but so am I. Watch the video someone was kind enough to link to. Watch how often Huff hits someone above the shoulderpads and swings him to tackle. Huff's a little undersized for a safety in the NFL, he needs to learn to hit low or he's gonna get run over by some of the big WR's at this level.
                      Huff is 6'1" 205 as of now, and can tackle above the pads like LBs does. That is a plus, not a negative. Sharper likes to tackle low and thats why he misses too much tackles. Deion Sanders tackled very low, and thats why he wasnt known as a tackler. Huff was able to take down bigger players in college, so no reason he cant do so in the pro.

                      Huff will be better than Hawk and Williams, the 2 players rated ahead of him.
                      Sharper put his head down when he tried to tackle, that's why he missed so many. I guess I'm just a little old school when it comes to tackling. Hit low, right under the shoulderpads, wrap up hard, and explode the hips through the ball carrier. I don't see it as positive that LB's can and do tackle above the pads. I do, however, agree with you halfway, Tank. Huff WILL be better than Williams, but Linebacker is more of an impact player than Corner or Safety in the NFL, which is why I have Hawk above Huff.
                      I guess we have to agree to disagree. I think safeties of Huff's caliber make more impacts than LBs of Hawks. Huff can do well in all these areas cover/blitz/run stoppage. Whereas, Hawks strength are only run stoppage/blitz (although not as well as Huff cos he isnt as fast).

                      Looking at the tape, Huff is lightning fast. Can tackle. Can cover. The complet defensive player.

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                      • #41
                        i'M SAYING THAT LINY GOES 2, I don't know if the Saints will be picking at the 2 spot when all is said and done.
                        Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                        • #42
                          Didn't one of these draft chat gurus claim that Leinart's stock was going to fall because he wants a Hollywood ending for his football career?
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #43
                            Old news but I don't think it will bother the teams come draft day.
                            Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              Originally posted by b bulldog
                              Huff will be a probowl caliber player in the NFL. He is a tremendous player. I think he will go in the 8-9 area.
                              I'd agree

                              1. Bush
                              2. M Williams
                              3. Leinart
                              4. Ferguson
                              5. Hawk
                              6. V Davis
                              7. V Young
                              8. Ngata
                              9. Huff
                              Ed Reed, Brain Dawkins, Darren Sharper, Roy Williams, Sean Taylar all were NOT top 5 picks. All have become Pro Bowl/All Pro safties. Doesn't history teach us anything? Bypassing All Pro safeties would come back to haunt you.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by MJZiggy
                                Didn't one of these draft chat gurus claim that Leinart's stock was going to fall because he wants a Hollywood ending for his football career?
                                Explain this hollywood ending?

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