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  • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
    I think a little closer examination into to the game shows the offense certainly underachieved even with the injuries. Rivers also lost his starting tailback and #1 receiver in the game. Not to mention is playing behind a completely makeshift offensive line, yet he managed to execute. Aaron also threw high and late on two redzone plays the last drive which would have essentially won the game. The stretch between the 2nd and 3rd quarters with 3 straight possessions resulting in zero first downs and 2 yards really changed the momentum of the game and was just what SD needed to keep a reeling defense gassed and on their heels.
    SD's offensive line was not at all the crew that played last Monday. They couldn't keep the rush off of Rivers, and tonight they seemed to hold the Packer rush off him most of the time.
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    • Packers missed Perry and Raji. Glad they put Jones in for the second half rather than more Guion. Guion wasn't getting any push.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        No way. That was dumb.
        It's a well-known rule. If you just google it is explained many places. You're wrong and digging your heels in.

        If a runner goes out of bounds, the clock is only stopped briefly for refs to reset ball. There is essentially no consequence to staying in bounds unless you are near the end of game or half.





        Whenever a runner goes out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, the game clock is started when
        an official spots the ball at the inbounds spot, and the Referee gives the signal to start the game
        clock, except that the clock will start on the snap:
        (1) after a change of possession;
        (2) after the two-minute warning of the first half; or
        (3) inside the last five minutes of the second half.

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        • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
          It's a well-known rule. If you just google it is explained many places. You're wrong and digging your heels in.

          If a runner goes out of bounds, the clock is only stopped briefly for refs to reset ball. There is essentially no consequence to staying in bounds unless you are near the end of game or half.
          (a) Whenever a runner goes out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, the game clock is started when an official spots the ball at the inbounds spot, and the Referee gives the signal to start the game clock, except... (exceptions don't apply to Rodgers situation)
          Inbounds spot is between the hashes and the game clock starts at the head refs' signal after he places the ball down. Could easily work off 10-20 seconds that way with a continuously running clock.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
            It's a well-known rule. If you just google it is explained many places. You're wrong and digging your heels in.

            If a runner goes out of bounds, the clock is only stopped briefly for refs to reset ball. There is essentially no consequence to staying in bounds unless you are near the end of game or half.



            http://static.nfl.com/static/content...ame_Timing.pdf

            You still lose the time between the end of the play and when the refs set the ball and start the clock. Usually 10 -15 seconds. Especially on longer gains like that. Not meaningless. Seconds count late in games.

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            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Inbounds spot is between the hashes and the clock starts at the head refs' signal after he places the ball down. Could easily work off 10-20 seconds that way with a continuously running clock.
              You think the refs take 10 or 20 seconds to spot the ball? No. Watch the game, the play clock and game clock start-up very quickly on out-of-bounds plays (except near end of halves.)

              You said the player was dumb for going out of bounds because you didn't understand the rule, that was obvious because you disputed the 5-minute rule. I'll leave you to pretend otherwise.

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              • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                You still lose the time between the end of the play and when the refs set the ball and start the clock. Usually 10 -15 seconds. Especially on longer gains like that. Not meaningless. Seconds count late in games.
                It's not 10 or 15 seconds. It is only the period that "the ball is out of bounds."
                pbmax did not berate the player for that reason - he did not understand the 5-minute rule.

                If the player stays inbounds, how quickly does the play clock start up? - that is the time that matters. It is a very short period. You get the full play-clock in either case. (We're talking about perspective of team trying to eat up clock.)
                Last edited by Harlan Huckleby; 10-18-2015, 09:28 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                  You think the refs take 10 or 20 seconds to spot the ball? No. Watch the game, the play clock and game clock start-up very quickly on out-of-bounds plays (except near end of halves.)

                  You said the player was dumb for going out of bounds because you didn't understand the rule, that was obvious because you disputed the 5-minute rule. I'll leave you to pretend otherwise.
                  While he may not have known the rule he's not wrong that it's dumb to go out of bounds. I think you would be hard pressed to see less than 10-15 seconds go off the clock between when a guy gets tackled and when the refs spot and wind the clock,especially on a 20 yd plus play.

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                  • I am pretty sure the clock was stopped on that play until the ball was set. But could be wrong.

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                    • Originally posted by Rastak View Post
                      Seahawks go down again.

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                      • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                        While he may not have known the rule he's not wrong that it's dumb to go out of bounds. I think you would be hard pressed to see less than 10-15 seconds go off the clock between when a guy gets tackled and when the refs spot and wind the clock,especially on a 20 yd plus play.
                        We are talking about a few seconds in a game that has more than five minutes of time left. They restart the play clock very quickly, not 10 or 15 seconds, even on a long play. Going out of bounds is not to be worried about.

                        It means everything inside 5 minutes.

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                        • Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                          Now hopefully the offense gets its head out of it's ass over the bye week. I would say the defense as well but Capers means they will remain in assville.
                          Getting a healthy Lacy, Cobb and Adams back for the Denver game will do our offense wonders. Lord knows how long Monty will be laid up.

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                          • Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
                            I think a little closer examination into to the game shows the offense certainly underachieved even with the injuries. Rivers also lost his starting tailback and #1 receiver in the game. Not to mention is playing behind a completely makeshift offensive line, yet he managed to execute. Aaron also threw high and late on two redzone plays the last drive which would have essentially won the game. The stretch between the 2nd and 3rd quarters with 3 straight possessions resulting in zero first downs and 2 yards really changed the momentum of the game and was just what SD needed to keep a reeling defense gassed and on their heels.
                            SD will get no sympathy from any of us about injuries.

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                            • Packers still 3rd in scoring D at 16.8 Ppg. Yardage drops to 16th at 355 ypg.
                              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                              -Tim Harmston

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                              • Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                                We are talking about a few seconds in a game that has more than five minutes of time left. They restart the play clock very quickly, not 10 or 15 seconds, even on a long play. Going out of bounds is not to be worried about.

                                It means everything inside 5 minutes.
                                Just watching the colts-pats, and on 3rd and 3 Andre Johnson caught a 7yd pass and went out of bounds. More than 5 minutes left. 9-10 seconds before the clock started back up. And that's with a short gain and a team trying to hurry down two scores. Strategically after getting the first down rich should have stayed in bounds to milk as much clock as possible.

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