Jeff Janis: He Who Conquers

[Smidgeon]

Last Janis thought:

When he has seen the field with Rodgers, how many passes has he caught during the course of the play? That is, when he has been running the called route, how often has Rodgers gone to him? Not a trick question, I think he has (once, maybe twice) but I don't really remember.

The two big catches he does have were both on broken plays.

Would you, as a coach put out a player who is not getting open on his called route, but can make plays once things breakdown? Does deciding Janis is your best weapon outside of a double-teamed Cobb mean you alter the offense for him?

That was why I argued against the fuckdoggle for Janis that week, but I was convinced otherwise simply because he produced.

[Pugger]

Did Janis play on offense yesterday? I must've missed him...

[Smidgeon]

He did. But mostly as a blocker.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Did Janis play on offense yesterday? I must've missed him...

Three snaps on offense. Same for Abby. No targeted throws to either.

[Pugger]

Three snaps on offense. Same for Abby. No targeted throws to either.

Oh, okay. I didn't notice. Perhaps they'll get more snaps next week.

[Patler]

Oh, okay. I didn't notice. Perhaps they'll get more snaps next week.

We can only hope so. As someone else wrote, Rodgers needs more guys he won't throw to.

[Pugger]

We can only hope so. As someone else wrote, Rodgers needs more guys he won't throw to.

[pbmax]

Not sure Abby falls into that category. Rodgers really liked him in camp last year.

[smuggler]

How is that possible? Abby tore his ACL in the first practice last year....

[Joemailman]

How is that possible? Abby tore his ACL in the first practice last year....

Abby got a concussion in the 1st practice this year. He practiced several days before the ACL injury last year.

[Smidgeon]

At last, all is revealed:

“We always push every day for him to be more consistent in his (route) depths,” Van Pelt said. “The big thing is just being on the same page as the quarterback. He needs to gain Aaron’s trust more and more every day, and that starts in practice.”

He knows the offense and can catch the ball, but his routes are inconsistent [enough to make neither the staff nor Rodgers confident he'll be where they expect him to be when the ball is thrown; in an offense where the QB gets rid of the ball often before a break, that's important].

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2015/11/14/packers-should-give-janis-shot/75708114/

[Maxie the Taxi]

At last, all is revealed:



He knows the offense and can catch the ball, but his routes are inconsistent [enough to make neither the staff nor Rodgers confident he'll be where they expect him to be when the ball is thrown; in an offense where the QB gets rid of the ball often before a break, that's important].

http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...shot/75708114/

That's why he can't go deep. He's only got 10 fingers and 10 toes!

[pbmax]

From that article:

I get that teams can’t play receivers who make repeated mental mistakes in practice. We saw that last year with tight end Brandon Bostick. He was the Packers’ most athletic tight end but couldn’t get on the field because the coaching staff and Aaron Rodgers didn’t trust him. Bostick’s botched recovery of the onside kick in the NFC title game told us everything we needed to know there. They were right not to play him.

That is kind of brutal. Play the kid, even if he is a little like Brandon Bostick.

Still, he has made more plays in the regular season with one game of significant action than Bostick did in three years. So the upside is probably higher with Janis.

[Pugger]

Janis is better on ST than Bostick ever was.

[pbmax]

“We always push every day for him to be more consistent in his (route) depths,” Van Pelt said. “The big thing is just being on the same page as the quarterback. He needs to gain Aaron’s trust more and more every day, and that starts in practice.”

I think Dougherty might be wrong in interpreting this quote. He is saying its precise route running but I think it might be simpler. He could be improvising. Moving to get himself open outside the parameters of the play call. If he was the #1 receiver on his college team, the team and QB would be more forgiving.

Not sure I buy that the Packers have been too hesitant to start young players. The entire roster is filled with people who played young. But vets do get the first shot if they perform in camp.