McGinn trashes Packer leaders, Rob Davis, Packers fans and WI media

[mraynrand]

I'm surprised Bob didn't mention Ahman Green punching a pillow, screaming and frightening his GF.

[mraynrand]

Rand, it's kind of hot when you get yer panties in a wad......

Are you saying I should have a cautious lip?

[sharpe1027]

Holy crap that was so bad. Why would he think anyone cares what he would have done? How is that relevant? It is so obviously written with an agenda that it is hard to take any of it seriously. He did Cohen no favors with that article. Poor judgement. You'd think an experienced writer would know enough not to overstate your position and not to alienate the people you are trying to convince.

[Striker]

An interesting (though completely conjectured) take is that Cohen's "out of the blue" article and McGinn's follow up could be an attempt to prove to the new brass at Gannett that the Milwaukee based Packers beat reporters aren't expendable, especially since Gannett owns the GBPG and could spin off coverage to them (or vice versa) as layoffs are likely once the purchase is complete.

[George Cumby]

The Packers internal policy seems to be to allow the legal and league systems to run their course and the deal with the player themselves.. By doing this, they are consistent with their treatment of their players, somethingGoodell could take notes on.

Doing so can be frustrating; IMO, Q should have been fired for pure stupidity, but it is consistent so players (and fans)know what to expect.

[smuggler]

In three years we're going to find out McGinn has early onset Alzheimer's and feel reaalll bad. :/

[Patler]

An interesting (though completely conjectured) take is that Cohen's "out of the blue" article and McGinn's follow up could be an attempt to prove to the new brass at Gannett that the Milwaukee based Packers beat reporters aren't expendable, especially since Gannett owns the GBPG and could spin off coverage to them (or vice versa) as layoffs are likely once the purchase is complete.

I was thinking the same thing. He tried to define the JS staff as different from the other WI media with these statements:

The majority of fans think the Packers can do no wrong, or at the very least deserve the benefit of every doubt. The team's decision-makers are well aware of this, and thus are able to make whatever moves they want confident they will be supported in the court of public opinion and by the largely benign media corps in Wisconsin.
...

I made the point that Lyerla had no business being on an NFL roster, especially a community-owned team such as the Packers.

In a series of rebuttal messages and emails, what I assumed to be mostly Packers fans blistered me for refusing to afford Lyerla, a player with the obvious physical skills to help the Packers, a second chance. I saw it as a fourth or fifth chance, and Green Bay should not be a halfway house.
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Would I have offered Guion continued employment in Green Bay this spring knowing what I know now? Not a chance.

Coupled with the "aren't we tough" description of Cohen standing up to Packer intimidation, he seemed to be promoting their staff has hard hitting journalists, in contrast to the "largely benign media corps in Wisconsin".

[red]

i liked it

and i really agree with the statement that "The majority of fans think the Packers can do no wrong, or at the very least deserve the benefit of every doubt. The team's decision-makers are well aware of this, and thus are able to make whatever moves they want confident they will be supported in the court of public opinion and by the largely benign media corps in Wisconsin."

i call it "head up the ass syndrome". we could go 0-16, and there will be many fans saying "we don't need to change what we're doing, we're going in the right direction"

yeah, mcginn sounds like a pissed off guy who knows he's about to lose his job, but IMO, he makes some good point

[CaptainD]

I will bite because apparently GB can do no wrong.

Read this part :

These incidents and others involving Guion were presented to the team by the Journal Sentinel about a month before publication.
Through a team publicist, general manager Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy declined to comment. Through another team publicist last week, team president Mark Murphy declined to answer questions regarding Guion.
On Monday morning, McCarthy didn't answer directly when asked when he learned of the criminal charges from domestic violence incidents faced by Guion.
McCarthy used the word "garbage" to describe his reaction to the impeccably reported, balanced account.

GB received the info a month BEFORE the story was written, then MM makes a smart ass comment ? Seriously ?

The dumb ass hits his GF in the jaw and it's OK because it's 3 years ago ? No gentleman it's not ok to hit a women ...ever.

Now before you get high and mighty on JS and staff better read this little gem from the NY Times today about Domestic Abuse.... which has a former Packer and his X in it.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/18...packers-people


The messenger is not the problem here. But many fans will shoot the messenger because they feel the organization is beyond reproach. Yes it's not just in this case but in many others also.

And many fans will continue to blast other organizations for transactions. But refuse to look in the mirror when the green Bay Packers do business the same way. And you can't have it both ways.

As was mentioned in the article pro football is a filthy business. As dirty in green Bay as it is in Dallas or Seattle. Hate me..blast me whatever but GB isn't as squeaky clean as many believe.

[red]

I will bite because apparently GB can do no wrong.

Read this part :



GB received the info a month BEFORE the story was written, then MM makes a smart ass comment ? Seriously ?

The dumb ass hits his GF in the jaw and it's OK because it's 3 years ago ? No gentleman it's not ok to hit a women ...ever.

Now before you get high and mighty on JS and staff better read this little gem from the NY Times today about Domestic Abuse.... which has a former Packer and his X in it.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/18...packers-people


The messenger is not the problem here. But many fans will shoot the messenger because they feel the organization is beyond reproach. Yes it's not just in this case but in many others also.

And many fans will continue to blast other organizations for transactions. But refuse to look in the mirror when the green Bay Packers do business the same way. And you can't have it both ways.

As was mentioned in the article pro football is a filthy business. As dirty in green Bay as it is in Dallas or Seattle. Hate me..blast me whatever but GB isn't as squeaky clean as many believe.

where have you been my whole life?

[ThunderDan]

i call it "head up the ass syndrome". we could go 0-16, and there will be many fans saying "we don't need to change what we're doing, we're going in the right direction"

Do you really believe that? That is a bunch of bs.

More funny coming from the guy who when we throw to incompletions in a row screams we have abandoned the run and when we run twice in a row for 3 yards screams we aren't using the MVP of the NFL enough.

Packer fans bitch when we make the playoffs 7 years in a row. With 3 NFC Championship games and 1 Super Bowl win.

[Pugger]

I will bite because apparently GB can do no wrong.

Read this part :



GB received the info a month BEFORE the story was written, then MM makes a smart ass comment ? Seriously ?

The dumb ass hits his GF in the jaw and it's OK because it's 3 years ago ? No gentleman it's not ok to hit a women ...ever.

Now before you get high and mighty on JS and staff better read this little gem from the NY Times today about Domestic Abuse.... which has a former Packer and his X in it.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/11/18...packers-people


The messenger is not the problem here. But many fans will shoot the messenger because they feel the organization is beyond reproach. Yes it's not just in this case but in many others also.

And many fans will continue to blast other organizations for transactions. But refuse to look in the mirror when the green Bay Packers do business the same way. And you can't have it both ways.

As was mentioned in the article pro football is a filthy business. As dirty in green Bay as it is in Dallas or Seattle. Hate me..blast me whatever but GB isn't as squeaky clean as many believe.

So we have a couple of players who aren't choir boys so that makes the entire team dirty? Its fun to call out other teams but we all know a few bad apples on a team doesn't mean a franchise is littered with felons.

[sharpe1027]

Nobody believes the Packers are squeaky clean. This is not some major scoop. It is what we all already know. As many have already said, its not much different than any other job. If someone stands to make you a lot of money, things get overlooked. Like it or hate it, that's the reality. If you don't like it the best option is to stop watching, otherwise you are contributing to the problem.

[red]

Do you really believe that? That is a bunch of bs.

More funny coming from the guy who when we throw to incompletions in a row screams we have abandoned the run and when we run twice in a row for 3 yards screams we aren't using the MVP of the NFL enough.

Packer fans bitch when we make the playoffs 7 years in a row. With 3 NFC Championship games and 1 Super Bowl win.

and the head up the ass people will bitch about those posters whenever they say anything even remotely negative about the team, or question anything the team does or doesn't do.

case in point, it pissed you off so much that someone would question the play calling, that it managed to stick in your head long after the fact.

bet you just seethe at the thought of someone thinking the playcalling might have been wrong?

[Pugger]

There is nothing wrong with being negative and pointing out poor play and/or execution. But that too can be overdone, especially if the team is having some success.